I am getting two offers for a Sr Analyst role. I would like to stay in a finically stable company during the recession. Also, I value WLB a lot. Just want a 8 hour job and minimum overtime at work. Trying to get some advice here as I am having a hard time to choose the offer. Twilio TC - 120k+ This is an internal transfer. My current team has a really bad WLB; Managers and Director are so pushy and just trying to please the upper management without caring about the workload for the subordinates. Also, the turnover rate is high in Twilio. 5 people left my team this year and no replacement so far. I am not sure if WLB would get better in other teams as that team is pretty new. Manager is new to the role as well. Twilio has no bonus but RSU. However the stock sucks. Joined with 300 per share and now just 50 bucks. Also, I am concerned about next round of layoff. Dassault TC - 110k - 120k Package is a bit low compared to High tech industry. I’m okay with that if WLB is better. This is a hybrid position at their U.S headquarter. I found a lot of long-term employees with Dassault for more than 10 or 30 years. The technology is a bit outdated compare to modern SaaS company. The manager is a chill and happy person. So as other team members. However I couldn’t find much info about this company and the work environment at Dassault. Would anyone be willing to share some insights on Dassault? Thanks!
What team are you on right now?
I work at a subsidiary of DS. Can’t speak to the WLB within DS itself but I know our organization has been turned upside down + inside out following acquisition (not necessarily in a good way). Stability is probably better than Twilio but the comp + benefits are not particularly competitive and the bureaucracy is intense
Thank you for sharing that❤️! Low TC indeed is my concern to make final decision. But I also can’t say no to a position with stability and security.😊
For sure! It’s the only way to make an informed decision ❤️ Totally understandable. Stability and security are pretty high from what I’ve seen—most people leave voluntarily for new opportunities as opposed to being laid off. As for the TC, if it helps you make a decision—we usually have annual reviews in April and get a small % salary bump based on inflation and performance at that point. If you’re at a higher band it’s usually like 2%, otherwise it’s closer to 3-5%. Also DS released a company-wide salary adjustment in September because of the unprecedented inflation globally. It was supposed to be retroactive to July 1st. The subsidiary I work for wasn’t included in it (😭) but I know it was well thought out with tiers based on your TC bracket, so the worse you were hit by inflation, the higher % adjustment you received. Hope this helps!! 😊
Ive been at DS for 4 years now. My entire time has been under NAM Services. It's a pretty stable company, I have close to 0 concern about layoffs and even gave up another roles with higher TC last month due to that security. During the start of COVID the CEO sent out a company wide email stating that no one will be laid off during 2020 and that seemed to be true. WLB is great, i consistently work less than 40 hours a week. It's very rare where i go higher. Career growth and salary raises seems to be extremely minimal. It's a great company if you just want to coast. Feel free to ask me more questions.
This is super helpful! Good to know Dassault rarely do layoffs. Twilio just announced another round of hiring freeze which is scaring. Tc is my concern at Dassault. However, if I take WLB into consideration, high tc is not my top priority then. I’d rather having a okay TC with good WLB. Totally aligned to your point that giving up a higher TC due to the security and WLB! Thanks again! This really helped me finalize my final decision! Definitely keep in touch if I end up with Dassault😀
Have been at DS for 10 yrs now and work at the main campus in MA as part of DS Americas. WLB is extremely good, but comp is not as good. DS has been very stable financially until now(this includes the 2008 recession, where they continued to grow) and layoff is extremely uncommon, unless it is performance reason. The only downside is that because DS uses internal tools for almost everything (including their own acquired/home-grown cloud business) , transitioning out of DS can be tricky and hinder with career aspirations. This could be part of the reason why dassault employees have been with the company for so long. Not that you cannot grow within the company if you perform well, but top executive management is mostly French. WLB more than compensates for it though. Depending on where you are in your career, and what your life and career priorities are, you should decide accordingly.
That’s so sweet of you for sharing such insights at Dassault!!!! I definitely value WLB more than the comp. $ means nothing if I am mentally and psychically burned out for a job. My current company is one of typical cal tech companies which struggle to be profitable during the recession. Lol.
Goodluck with whatever you decide. But if you decide Dassault, then do get in touch.
One more comment from 13 year Dassault veteran: I concur totally with the assessments of the previous two Dassault posters. Great work life balance. French management can be frustrating at times, but at the end of the day all your co-workers, (French ones included) are very bright and great people. Pay is always a bit below market but the benefits are some of the better ones that you'll find outside of FAANG type companies.
How is the technology stack? And what about learning?
After leveraging the previous posts and your insights on Dassault, I’ve signed offer with DS. Very much aligned with your comment on the co-workers! During interviews, interviewees are very bright and nice people. 👍👍👍
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