Tech IndustryDec 28, 2023
ex-GoogleCEO_god

Why GCP is losing to AWS

- Laid off from GOOG earlier this year - Changed my Linkedin status to CEO of stealth startup - Immediatelly approached by AWS startup relations offering 100k credits in AWS, got it in the account a week afterwards - 2 months later approached by GCP startup relations, when they found out I didn't raise captial they ghosted me - Built a prototype with AWS - Raised captial - GCP be chasing - lol

Google dmuyggj Dec 28, 2023

how much of the credit do u use per mo? u started building right away and not after talking to GCP relations, or not till after?

ex-Google CEO_god OP Dec 28, 2023

GCP didn't even set up a call, they asked on chat "how much did you raise? it will help us prepare a competitive offer compared to what you got from AWS" and after I said none I didn't hear back from them

Google dmuyggj Dec 28, 2023

how much of the aws credit do u use a mo ? u started building right after u got the credit, and before GCP reached out ?

Amazon BigCode Dec 28, 2023

Cause the developer experience is trash.

Procore starboks Dec 28, 2023

True. AWS has so many tutorials and docs that it's very easy to get started and build complex systems easily.

Amazon BigCode Dec 28, 2023

Gcp is absolutely horrible to work on. AWS provides cdk you can spin up a typescript project and build Infra in minutes.

Lyft postald00d Dec 28, 2023

Dang that's great to hear about the AWS experience. I hope they are finding profit by bootstrapping startups in that way. Seems like a good way for everyone to win if AWS can essentially "bet" on a bunch of micro-size startups and hope they scale big.

Salesforce cgbtg Dec 28, 2023

GCP feels very coupled with the gmail account. Which I think is not great approach if you want your whole infrastructure on there

Google f00b0t🤖 Dec 28, 2023

Yes! Moved from UK to Aus recently and Google support had me change countries and close my UK billing account for Google One. That immediately shut down all my GCP services which it turns out were also tied to pay.google.com. Miserable experience. I’ve had zero downtime for four years and then this. Never using GCP again.

Google dmuyggj Dec 28, 2023

wow that is so ghetto lol

LinkedIn migra[in]e Dec 28, 2023

Nothing from MS/azure?

Google dmuyggj Dec 28, 2023

they prolly be like : here’s $300 expires in 1mo

Amazon siwjrbxusn Dec 29, 2023

lol fuck azure, genuinely a garbage platform. it takes SEVEN forms / pages to launch an ec2 instance equivalent. its like doing a windows installation setup with the amount of pages you need to click through.

Google f00b0t🤖 Dec 28, 2023

I started a company in 2014. Azure gave the most credits (100k) but the dev experience was super janky and it expired in one year. AWS gave 30k expiring in two years and also had a building (loft?) where I could go debug issues with an architect for free. GCP talked down to me and never gave me shit. Went with AWS. The business ended up getting acquired a year later (<1m… nothing great), spending 2k/month on AWS in perpetuity and is still running so they priced everything just right. Worked out for me and them both.

Google r2d2_0 Feb 27

Did GCP exist in 2014?

Google f00b0t🤖 Feb 27

GCP has been around is some form or another since before 2010. It was app engine first I think. The Firebase acquisition was 2014 so it was up and running well before then.

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MiaMalkova Dec 28, 2023

Google has a hard time building any product people want to use, maybe the only exception is google maps, everything else have been acquisitions. Dunno if it is their engineers or their product folks

Cruise vswrstr Dec 28, 2023

PMs man. They fucking suck over there. I was on a team that built a product for 2 years, while the PMs were all positive and hyped, but just weeks before launch they said the customer feedback was dull and killed the product. All 2 years, we were working closely with the same PMs. Like WTF were they doing all that time, in every weekly/biweekly sync meetings. 8 engineers paid for 2 years for nothing. Morale went down the drain and people stopped caring and most great engineers left in a year. Zero accountability, it's frustrating.

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MiaMalkova Dec 28, 2023

yeah, also their designers are not great, only will recently google maps start giving the options for the navigation to says "in the next corner turn right" instead of "in 34 yards turn right" which is hilarious.

Snap snapL8 Dec 28, 2023

G not only has lazy engineers but also lazy customer relationship and sales. You will feel this more when you ask for technical support on GCP.

Activision Blizzard RenfieldD Dec 28, 2023

Google don't know what they're doing. I don't know what it is but everything they make seems like it's built for kids, all those primary colours and the layout, but despite it looks like it was made for kids it's still a pain in the ass to use. I use GCP a bit for some speech 2 text stuff but only because of the free credits.

Salesforce fae213 Dec 28, 2023

What did you build? Share your startup if you don't mind.