Why can’t companies grasp that oversea devs are not good
Yes they are 10x cheaper but I have first hand seen the code that gets pumped out. It is beyond garbage, completely un maintainable. Sure everything will be nice and smooth the first year of a project, but 10 years down the line, with no code quality, good luck
That’s why we have jobs in USA
You get what you pay for
Yep. The people that complain about it are the ones are from companies that pay someone from India/China/Mexico 10% of US TC, and thus get the bottom feeders. Pay 40%+, give them assignments on par with US, and you will get as good, if not better.
Oversea devs are good, your company does not hire good devs. I’ve worked with devs in India who are amazing at their job.
Overseas engineering is good if not better… especially India… sure there are sweatshops like the WITCH that push the clients to maximize billing, but firms that hire directly have a much better and larger talent pool…
I was told Indian law requires 3 months notice, so people accept an offer and use the 3 months to find a better offer. That's a reason why companies lower the hiring bar there, otherwise they'd never hire anybody. Another reason may be that American people see overseas workers as cheap labour, so the recruiting machine doesn't focus on getting top talent - if they paid 2x it'd still be cheap for US but they would get much better engineers. All that said, there are good and bad engineers everywhere, this has been my experience anyway working with americans, latinos, indians, europeans...
If you are going to be racist, have some courage and don't say 'overseas', your racism still shows.
Don’t be so sensitive
I can say the same for US folks (but don't want to generalize). Some real shit code that I had to completely refactor for a small change needed by me (Because it looked terrible and readability guys would have called it out anyways and also that ownership has transferred to me).
Don't use the cheapest options possible
You can continue to live in your cocoon to ur own peril. At least companies including big tech have moved past this notion. They all have invested in a big way in India in developing centers of excellence. And the current cost optimization will further accelerate this trend. Remember the H1B quota went close to 200K once has come back to 65K. All those people are staying back in India(after all Indians accounted for close to 80% or over h1b applicants). Barring WITCH, salaries offered in tech is significantly higher today, that also makes lot of people stay back.
H1B quota is always 65k from 1990
India has a lot of good engineers now. If the entire team is India, you will usually have the same quality bar. The bigger problem is teams which are split and have to work in different time zones.
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Please god no, @Coinbase... you have no idea how many times I had to "spoonfeed" Indian devs... some are even L6, same as my level, acting like L4 juniors. I doubt it's the case for all Indian devs or devs in other countries but that's my limited experience so far in Amazon for 7 years here.