Tech IndustryFeb 17, 2020
MicrosoftJceW86

Why companies don't negotiate in good faith without competing offers?

Why companies don't negotiate in good faith when there is no leverage of competing offers? From a grid and minimizing opex pov it makes sense to exploit your new potential upcoming worker until it doesn't when he/she finds out and leaves in the middle of the important project to the competitor or whoever pays more. If there are no competing offers, there is still a chance for a candidate to reject the offer just for being a low ball. In that scenario, what did they really achieve other than wasting each other's time? Tc: 210k

Microsoft lilTooMuch Feb 17, 2020

Who wants to leave money on table ... It's pure demand and supply. If you are in demand people will pay top dollar for your talent।

Microsoft JceW86 OP Feb 17, 2020

If it's really just demand and supply, why companies do virtue signaling of caring about the employee, culture and other stuff. If they REALLY care about culture and employees, they should at least start the relationship on a positive note.

Microsoft lilTooMuch Feb 17, 2020

Doood ... You sounds like super high with management Kool Aid ... All those are PR stunt. I have worked at 8 differnt organisation .... May be one ... Just one had a some genuine interest in employees ... Rest all were/are money making machines. If they feel your role is redundant they will fire in a heartbeat. In US there is not a single compnay which hasn't fiered a single employee in it's history.

Cruise Automation (.)(.)@tec Feb 17, 2020

Recruiter: Here is our initial offer and as we all know it, we are open to negotiation. ^^ what part of above statement feels like that they are starting the relationship on negative note?? Understand the fact that there are lots of unknowns in what you (or any new hire) are bringing to table. Its not like you are guaranteeing your future performance with the company. Hence a company can't have a narrow TC range that they could offer.. So when a TC range that they would be offering is very large, negotiation is the only way both parties can come to a decision.

WeWork RPvk36 Feb 17, 2020

Ask for what you want and be willing to walk away. You don’t need another offer to get a good deal. Eg I can’t join unless you offer me X.

Uber Uuuuubr Feb 17, 2020

If you really want direct tie in to value added you’d have to accept it decreasing when things go south.