UMB BanksNewer

Why do companies want computer scientists for data science?

I understand that computer scientists have the ability to scrape and manipulate data but do they have any formal research design or statistical modeling experience? Wouldn't statistics or econometrics be a better fit for data science? You need to understand statistical theory in order to make accurate predictions based on sample data. Maybe my impression about companies wanting computer scientists for a data role is flawed. I would like to know your thoughts.

ORC International userdude Aug 17, 2017

They teach data science in CS programs. I basically "minored" in data science with the different courses I chose to take, plus you get hands-on experience rather than just theoretical. Computer Science is largely mathematics, remember, not just programming. Most of the business/math majors that I know who have gotten into Data Science roles have had to self-teach themselves to use the tools of the trade. CS bridges the gap for you.

Epic KHCx54 Aug 17, 2017

CS isn't a coding boot camp

Invesco xbat Aug 17, 2017

The chief statistic officer position doesn't exist yet so it all fits under the cio/cto.

Epic KHCx54 Aug 17, 2017

"yet" you say?

Invesco xbat Aug 17, 2017

Not in companies that still think all things technology related fall under a CIO

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UMB Banks Newer OP Aug 17, 2017

Which company and which language?

Epic KHCx54 Aug 17, 2017

New company

Uber GMie27 Aug 17, 2017

Because model prototyping is only one stage of data science. Training on large dataset and productionizing models requires a lot more work.

UMB Banks Newer OP Aug 17, 2017

What else? Would experience in python make up for the non-CS degree?

Exponential CiXN27 Aug 17, 2017

most data science folks don't have CS degrees, so that shouldn't be a huge concern. stats, math, applied math, physics phds all welcome as long as they could code.

Oracle razy80 Aug 17, 2017

Personal experience previous company director got a bunch of statisticians all phds

Oracle razy80 Aug 17, 2017

Nothing went to prod except pocs and were not able to get or look at the data unless given them as dataframes

Oracle razy80 Aug 17, 2017

The data was in hdfs.... may b exception but I saw 5 such data scientists so it depends not to be generalized

Revinate JPQ Aug 17, 2017

Companies don't understand what data science is. That's why. They lean towards infrastructure stuff versus finding real answers. It will pass.

Microsoft Biased Aug 18, 2017

Data science is code for CS + Statistics

Microsoft jmGp18 Aug 18, 2017

Computer Science Research is all about math

Oracle aiabc Jun 21, 2019

Because data science has become so broad that people can try and fit any job description they want. A CS person plays a better role as they ( if having a good ML background ) are also the ones who knows how to love things to production, think about scalability , and other factors once prototype phase is completed

Oracle aiabc Jun 21, 2019

I think one should go and read the basics first . I will recommend to read the 21 rules by Martin zinkevich ( which has become like the Bible of ML models in prod from google ) The first rule which I have seen immense number of times in practice is to push a solution with minimal ML , basic mode to prod and get the benchmarks ( also tests the end to end pipeline works, specially when you have lot of dependent pipelines to get this job run)

Oracle aiabc Jun 21, 2019

Grad School I agree , research I agree , stats not too sure , there is always this divided view between what statisticians do and what machine learning / data scientists do ? So end of the day I feel what solves the problem and gets the job done . Now one can argue one of the best books in terms of fundamentals is still ESL and ISL , and stats have a lot of overlap with what our ML models do but things have come a long way today