Why is the average tenure at big companies so short?

Pitney Bowes / Eng λ
Feb 25, 2018 37 Comments

I noticed many big tech companies have very short average tenure.

Facebook: 2.02 years
Google: 1.90 years
Amazon: 1.84 years
Microsoft: 1.81 years

Why is the average tenure so short? Are most people just job hopping for experience/salary boost? Or do people not like the companies?

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  • Facebook RandForest
    1.5 years at fb and looking to move. Got significantly lowballed on my initial offer and didn’t know it. also, fb is a pressure cooker (I get great ratings so don’t say it’s because I’m bad) that wants you to work all the time. In addition, not sure if I like our impact on the world.
    Feb 25, 2018 19
    • Facebook BlairW
      Can you clarify if you think you were lowballed with base salary on initial grant? Base salary corrects itself over time (or in one shot if you get promoted). Initial grant never corrects itself.

      You can't estimate initial grant based on refresher amount. Refreshers are formulaic for level and perf ratings. Has nothing to do with base salary or initial grant amount.
      Feb 26, 2018
    • Facebook SmellyCatt
      You can estimate target initial grant based on MA refresher. Also, yes I was lowballed on base and initial grant. However, base does not necessarily correct itself due to promotion. You can go look up the math on how promotions work.
      Feb 26, 2018
  • Microsoft Jxuebsj
    Where do your stats come from?
    Feb 25, 2018 4
    • Uber Head
      Maybe people who stick for long dont use paysa
      Feb 27, 2018
    • Microsoft Jxuebsj
      It’s completely off. Ive got 10 years and work with people that have more.
      Feb 27, 2018
  • New / Eng
    codingunit

    New Eng

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    I fix broken software.
    codingunitmore
    Two reasons, burn out and poor managers. It takes about two years to realize that your efforts are not appreciated.
    Feb 26, 2018 0
  • Google / Product
    dc3

    Google Product

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    Microsoft
    dc3more
    When I was at Microsoft, I'm sure that was not the average. It was much closer to 5 yrs. Having said that... Hundreds of new hires and college grads join all these companies regularly so the average tennis gets pulled down. At Google it's very common to run into ppl who have been here 5 plus years but much less than Microsoft. So...tldr, your stats don't feel legit.
    Feb 25, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Eng unicorn-
    The average tenure is meaningless for a fast growing company like FB. If you add more people in one year than you have - guess what majority of them have been at the company less than a year :). What you are looking for is retention rate engineers, which is very high at FB
    Feb 25, 2018 4
    • Fitbit mahalo2
      @credit karma - was that in this post 🤣🤣
      Feb 26, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng unicorn-
      There is definitely higher focus on impact at FB and people push themselves harder. However the retention rates are still very high so the focus on impact doesn’t result in a lot of people leaving
      Feb 26, 2018
  • Twitter zUwB37
    Are these figured adjusted for the fact that the workforce at these places is growing so shorter tenures are to be expected?
    Feb 25, 2018 1
    • Facebook / Creative
      Not adjusted.
      Feb 25, 2018
  • Oath / Eng NotNew
    🤔My sources says the number is even smaller
    Feb 25, 2018 0
  • VMware Raghu
    You can get better package if you switch and there are lots of new opportunities. No reason to take all the shit that inevitably develop in a large company.
    Feb 26, 2018 0
  • CareerBuilder hdTI13
    Those stats sound a bit low but yeah, salary. FANG companies tend to have younger workforces and it is in a young engineer's best interest to job hop a few times in their 20s
    Feb 26, 2018 0

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