Why women in tech?
I understand that there’s significantly lesser women in tech than men and hence people feel a need to push for it. But why should we have more women in tech? Or any specific group for that matter? I’m not against it, just trying to get a better understanding of the issue. Are there any rational/moral/other reasons to the push?
The general idea is to have equal number of genders in the workforce. More specifically, equal number of genders in all the occupations. Tech is happen to be one such occupation.
Because tech has cushy jobs that pay well. Nobody’s pushing for more women in garbage disposal, mining, oil rigs, construction etc
You don’t see as much media push but there is absolutely a desire by women to be in those jobs. One woman I know was harassed out of her job in construction before she ended up in tech.
Sorry, I shouldn’t have used the superlative word “nobody”. The world is not black and white. Many things are not just binary, but statistical. I still stand by my point in general. Your anecdote is interesting but is nothing but an anecdote.
Just have intelligent human beings in tech, and have a mechanism that mathematically and correctly hires intelligent folks. Don’t give a fuck about gender/race/religion. Stop using leetcode as the only metric and reintroduce IQ questions.
Are you seriously advocating for those bullshit IQ questions? Those were even worse than leetcode
If u can pass the google bar w/o leetcoding congrats, you were born smarter than the average human. If u can pass the google bar w/ leetcoding, congrats, you work harder and are probably smarter than the average msft employee.
Only because tech is paying more right now. Have you seen a lot of push for getting more women in construction sites? How about sanitation department? Electrician?
Women have different life experiences and concerns. When you’re building a product that people use, having a broad range of people helps you avoid critical mistakes. Your product manager is probably only one gender and race. I don’t think there’s a unique feminine perspective to database optimization or something, but end user stuff, absolutely. It also cuts down on the brogrammer culture, and the “I’m awesome because I worked 80 hours this week, and I’m stronger for it” nonsense.
Actually I find databases that were built by women and code that was written by women to distinctly better than their male counterparts. They are socialized from a very early age to be neat and organized and thorough. I can actually tell (with almost perfect accuracy) if code was written by a male or female, because we have been socialized very differently. Similar to how women, on average, have neater hand writing. They produce cleaner, more efficient work.
@CwVP04, So you are saying women are better than men?
Because if half your users have no representative voice in your company you'll lose to the company that actually knows what they want by employing people that know x or y group from a first hand basis. Tech in particular is focused on because the western world really needs to wake up and push more people to at least try out stem. We don't need more construction workers, electricians, or anything else that'll get replaced by robots anyways so no one focuses on that. Tech will consume or be involved in every possible aspect of people's lives. We don't know what blindspots we have and thinking you can achieve diversity of thought by only hiring x or y group is very naive. You can either accept diversity leads to better products or that there's a worldwide conspiracy between billionaires and academics to throw away money and make their companies weaker in order to, idk, virtue signal?
Wow, the only sensible answer to this entire thread. But I won't agree fully. The push is largely driven by political correctness too rather than only increasing diversity to produce meaningful profits.
Because it leads to better business outcomes.
First it adds drama. Some may like, no doubt. That business outcome claim is impossible to quantify.
Drama is a case by case basis it is not determined by gender
Would you still be asking why if tech was a female dominated industry that you wanted to be a part of and had the skills for yet had to face discrimination trying to get in? Diversity doesn't just mean race, ethnicity, gender, etc. What companies need is diversity in thought. If you have too much of the same thing, there aren't as many new ideas, approaches to problem solving, innovations etc. as there could be if you were to have a more diverse group.
Why men in tech?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2016/02/10/business/women-in-company-leadership-tied-to-stronger-profits.amp.html
That’s BS
Correlation and causation... And it's quite separate from the morale arguement