I might be ignorant but when they keep saying "Companies fire Americans and replace them with H1Bs". What companies are they referring to? This sounds stupid imo it's more expensive to hire a H1B employee isn't it?
Nope - as someone on H1B, Iāve seen many instances where whole teams of Americans got laid off and had to train their H1 replacements. But again the thorny gray area there is that these H1s are contractors working for TCS, so a law saying an American cannot be replaced with H1 wonāt really catch this. Also, I believe companies should be able to make hire / fire / outsource decisions according to the business climate they operate in and must not be forced to do unnatural things that can hurt business.
There is a whole lot of world outside the silicon valley that uses h1b visa
In tech , hiring process is itself so expensive and then the ramp up time for the new employee
In my company we only hire Indians as we believe that someone on H1B will work harder than locals, will not challenge the status quo. Its sad but thatās the way things are currently.
You should raise your voice and encourage your company to hire locals.
I've seen that many times at several companies - usually perpetrated by a manager that came on a visa themselves. They have low confidence in their own abilities to get their teams to perform without the threat of losing legal status. It's pathetic and shows they are not qualified to lead.
Hiring someone on an H1B is just a total drag and tbh I have no idea why an employer would ever do it unless they really want that candidate (ie canāt find an American with same qualifications). You got to do the paperwork which you can only do once a year in April, hire lawyers and then not know for months if your hire beat the bad odds and will start in 6 months time. Why as a business would you plan around that if you can hire an American right now? Most likely even save on international relo cost? I think itās a sad testament to the American pool of candidates as a whole that even with these awful conditions, companies still opt for trying their luck with H1Bs.
Its a nexus mafia at work here. My post above here posted again here LEETCODER stop being pretentious. Every Indian H1B knows the fact that we are replacing local engineers here. Indian manager and HR recruiters only push forward candidacies of Indian H1Bs. They give a rats ass about spending companies $10K on sponsorship. If companies start implementing incentive of giving $1K to hiring managers to hire locals, believe me they will not hire many H1Bs. I am in Bay Area our company works with dozens of US based multinationals where Indian engineers are placed. 100% of our clients who are hiring managers, HR, recruiters etc are Indians. We pay them gifts (really expensive ones) for most placements.
Its not a sad testament to local pool. But its a shame on mafia at work here. We Indian are expert at gaming the system and we spread corruption far and wide.
Zoppster... There is a lot of misinformation in your comment. Not all H1B hires relocate internationally. Majority of the H1b hires are already in US. They just switch employers and their paper work can be filed any time of the year. A H1B hire costs only 4500 in government fees for 3 years. Add attorney fees that might be another 1000 or so. If the application is filed in premium, there is an additional fee of 1250. A H1b costs about 2500 a year. Most of the new H1B applications are filed by offshore companies trying to send their cheaper workforce here. Since it is an internal move the candidates cannot negotiate for a better salary. These companies pay the minimum wage for h1 also known as LCA salary. They are not breaking rules here. In most cases, these employees are already working for an outsourced project. Even if it takes 6 months for them to start, the company is not losing anything. The new H1B applications filed by the US companies are mostly for the fresh grads that are already working for them on an OPT. Even though their application can be filed only once a year, they are already working for the company. They won't wait for 6 months to start and they are not relocating internationally.
Yeah I was really referring to new hires that are supposedly brought in to the states to ātake American jobsā. I really donāt think that āmostā new H1Bs are for OPTs. Thatās a pretty specific type of candidate. If the candidate already had an H1B, they donāt count towards the quota and are already occupying an āAmericanā job. For inner company transfers internationally, why not go with L1? As for offshore consulting companies, agreed. Itās a problem and they need to be controlled.
Those H1Bs who are brought in by offshore consulting companies switch jobs within a year. They find another Indian in one of the US company i.e. say Yahoo, if the candidate is from Andhra, he will find a hiring manager from Andhra in Yahoo. He gets an easy interview panel, sails through, and HM will ask HR to file H1B transfer under perm. Candidate starts working at Yahoo in a few weeks. This is how this whole scam works. No doubt there are some brilliant H1Bs from around the world but the worst ones have clogged the system - everywhere from H1B lottery, to green card queue, everywhere for 1 good H1B candidate there are at least 6-7 bad H1Bs in the queue.
It sounds like the USCIS Director is blaming H1-B visa holders. They have done nothing. The labor laws and the greed of American companies are to blame. How about we deal with more important issues such as: 1. Making it harder for employers to abuse Performance Improvement Plans 2. Improving legal protections for older workers (40+) 3. Prohibiting companies from demanding NDAs (including non-disparagement) in return for severance ...
Typical indian BS media with sensational headlines that does not match the content
Former H1B visa holder here from Europe, now a green card holder. Been here 3 years. My team I manage has directly earned Amazon profits of ~700 million. Not bad for a former H1B holder but if they hired an American I'm sure it would be in the billions and not a measly ~700 million.
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One should actually read transcript of his interview and not Toilet Of India (TOI). He didnāt say anything against H1B and just presented his concerns.. Iām an immigrant.
That is probably fine on surface but itās one of those well intentioned things that can never be implemented. The tough thing is determining if a H1B is a direct replacement for an American. Thereās plenty of legit cases where tech companies lay off LEs and continue to hire both Americans and H1Bs in the same team / role so how do you decide which ones are valid and which ones arenāt?
Usually the trick is to hire a tech labor firm, get existing workers to train them, then layoff locals. Often the locals don't have cs degrees so they are very vulnerable to being unemployed longer and this kind of transition usually occurs outside of major tech hubs, so the tech jobs are more scarce.
Yes exactly - thereās all sorts of loop holes for this sort of thing so that just putting in the law will not do anything effective.