WFH & RTODec 29, 2023
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Why do low tier companies in non-tech locations force RTO?

I keep seeing posts on LinkedIn for jobs like: Paychex Data Scientist - Hybrid from Rochester NY Moen(they make sinks) Director of Software Eng - On-site from Cleveland, OH It seems absolutely illogical for any company outside of Bay Area, Seattle or NYC to not embrace remote work. Maybe you can pull it off in Chicago or Denver or something, but you really think you’re going to get better output from people willing to work from CLEVELAND than you can get from a remote worker? There’s a huge portion of people who desire remote work who will take paycuts and are willing to drop down in company prestige to preserve their preferred working style and you get these companies not taking advantage of it. Bunch of silly god damned gooses. #remotework #wfh

Fanatics stackstack Dec 29, 2023

Think about the management at places like that. They were never top tier to begin with and can’t understand how to attract and retain top talent.

Pinterest Pinsect OP Dec 29, 2023

Very strong hypothesis

Microsoft spoiledev Dec 29, 2023

Because it works for their business. They do not wish to compete with west coast. They can't compete. By forcing you to move to an area with fewer oppurtunities easier for them to retain.

Pinterest Pinsect OP Dec 29, 2023

The retention part does make sense. Though if you’re not able to recruit from the top talent pool, it’s hard to say if that’s a bug or a feature

Microsoft spoiledev Dec 29, 2023

They don't want ţop talent. They need a si.ple stable person who will work for years without drama.

VMware r2dq Dec 29, 2023

Cuz HR ain't full of the best and brightest. In fact it's full of sh1t

TikTok RTno Dec 29, 2023

It’s not about “forcing RTO”, they were never good managers of top talent engineers prior to COVID either and probably couldn’t justify their existence without the ability to micromanage their peons

Volkswagen of America BuyUSA Dec 29, 2023

WFH jobs as a whole are now in very limited supply as all of the "top-tier" companies in "top-tier" locations have conspired to force their workers to RTO at the same time. So yes, these non-tech companies in low-tier locations now have some leverage to force workers to relocate & come into the office as well.

Pinterest Pinsect OP Dec 29, 2023

Right, but would they not have better options for talent if they didn’t require it, especially in these places very few people want to be?

NASDAQ HmKt15 Dec 30, 2023

Maybe they're okay with not getting the top talent and are fine with local candidates

Capital One rdt267 Dec 31, 2023

It’s not illogical because these companies most likely only had local talent to begin with. They probably did not go on a pandemic hiring spree getting people from across the country. So it’s just business as usual. Hiring remote would actually be more of a hassle to their ways of working. And there are super smart people working in non-tech cities. I lived in Philly and worked with some of the smartest designers I’ve met. So clearly it works for them.

Bloomberg pHyF36 Jan 2

Lol there are companies in Greenwich CT who expect you to commute from NYC for RTO.