Tech IndustryOct 10, 2021
AmazonBANANA‎

are startups like chime, current, varo, step, etc actually innovating?

first of all: i'm not hating on the companies or the employees there. chime is probably a rocketship and going to pop on IPO. with that being said; are these fintech-style online-only bank companies really innovating? to me they just seem like 💩 wrapped in nice gift wrap are they not just greendot visa cards wrapped in cute little mobile frontends? tc: 290k

Poll
112 Participants
Select only one answer
Affirm cmwjfiw59 Oct 10, 2021

Not innovative. But almost nothing is nowadays. We're just in a massive VC bubble and honestly I can't wait to see it pop

LinkedIn 3.14159266 Oct 10, 2021

Others feel the same as affirm. Just an installation plan with low enough interest/ margin, by burning the investors' money. Any credit card bank can do that, if they don't care customer's default and fed keeps low rate forever.

Affirm cmwjfiw59 Oct 11, 2021

My TC is 800 because of stock growth so idc

SoFi mirth001 Oct 10, 2021

Same old financial backend wrapped with new/different UI. And sometimes they look juvenile to attract certain demographics.

Amazon thelord Oct 10, 2021

You need to also consider how broken the current banking system is. These companies are making banking easier for millions of Americans and solving a huge problem.

Amazon thelord Oct 10, 2021

Bank of America charges outrageous account maintenance fees, overdraft fees, credit card interest, etc. All of the big banks have poor in-app experience. I don’t use BofA but I don’t know if they have all these features: -Get paycheck two days early -Send money to anyone with a bank account -Send a physical check from the mobile app -Fee free secured credit cards -Competitive interest rates

New
r!xvk05 Oct 10, 2021

I think the issue is that BofA and Chase isn't available to ppl in low income areas, so Varo and Chime are definitely catering to that issue

Mozilla TOYV61 Oct 10, 2021

There’s not much new under the sun, especially in financial services. “Innovation” means doing something against the spirit of regulation while toeing the line. Most financial services companies are built off exploiting the working poor or skirting KYC regulations to be able to serve illegal immigrants. That’s all the “new” “banking” services do too

Google qiangwei Oct 10, 2021

Sounds like Michael Scott Paper Company. Consultant: “Why do you think the banks charge such high fees?” Michael Scott: “Corporate greed?”

Chime hvHi35 Oct 11, 2021

It was actually Pam who said that, get your facts straight!

SoFi mirth001 Oct 10, 2021

Regulations are definitely something all financial service companies have to work with regardless of old banks or so called fintech now. Ignoring them will likely get you warning and/or panalty. There are so many have tried and failed, including SoFi. It is just not something you should take lightly. Yet many newbies think this build fast, fail fast thing would work in finance like most other tech startups. The only way to fundamentally change how the system works should start from the regulators, but most of them are too archaic to even understand what these new companies are trying to do.

KPMG anon3276 Oct 12, 2021

Yup ^. I work in Fin Crime space - being onboarded to chime shortly. They’re ramping up compliance tech a ton it seems

Chime chime! Oct 13, 2021

Who cares as long as you are getting paid enough and treated respectfully. 99% of companies don't innovate they just implement what's already implemented elsewhere. Finance is a big market. Even a small pie of that is enough to become a big publicly traded company.