At the risk of doxxing myself: Have an E6 signed contract to start fully remote in EU in a couple of months (offer is ancient; I delayed start for the max permitted, as wife has several months' notice clause in her role, and replacement roles few and far between). Not pre-allocated to a team. Recruiter contacts exiting. Wife and I have unusually comfortable, family friendly, low-hour roles, with excellent relative comp, and extraordinary WLB. 25 yoe, corp and startups. While fully remote, Meta role requires relocation to a new EU country. Wife has senior exec role in her field, and will lose around 100k TC to accommodate my move, while I gain 130k - so the move is not for the money, but the hopefully intellectual challenge and greater growth possibilities for me (in return for anticipated worse WLB for both of us, and minor joint TC increase for now). This trade off was acceptable for us way back when the offer was made. Have young kids that will be uprooted from school. Will lose exceptional housing. Given what's going on at Meta, were you in my position, would you do this? Or is the real risk of some last minute revocation of my (long since signed) contract now too high? If my role somehow didn't materialize it would be utterly devastating for all of us, in numerous ways. Time is, unfortunately, of the essence, as she now has a just few days left where she may be able to withdraw her notice at her current employer, before it's too late. At my wit's end, and would be immeasurably grateful for any personal advice, with good news or bad, in thread or by pm. #meta #layoffs #hiring
Which countries?
Expensive ones. Can't really go into more detail on thread.
100k in Poland isn't the same as 100k in Ireland
It’s risk vs reward. You’ve outlined the risks quite nicely. And it sounds like a very risky decision. I don’t fully understand what the reward would be. Not TC obviously. Is it just to get that Meta name on your resume? Is there something more? If the only reward here is to get Meta on your resume it wouldn’t be worth it to me. But maybe there is something you aren’t mentioning.
Challenge. While current WLB is incredibly valuable given kids' ages, I feel like I'm wasting my ability in an undemanding role, with nowhere to progress without such a move. I seem to have what many people my age want, but life is short and I want to do something bigger, not graze on lush pastures.
Yeah. You shouldn’t listen to me. I won’t tell you what you want to hear. I’m the single income earner for my family. I work a challenging, stressful big tech job. I like my job well enough but my family suffers because of the stress. I come home from work and I only have a couple hours with my kids before they need to go to bed, and I’m too drained and stressed out from work to do anything meaningful in those couple hours. If I could trade my job for something with less hours and less stress I absolutely would. When I’ve looked I haven’t been able to find anything that pays enough to provide for my family given we are single income. If it were me I wouldn’t take the job. But that’s me.
Just move alone, stamp that resume then move back after layoffs, of have wife move after a few months once you are confident its stable
This is the conclusion I've been closest to coming to, but it has two big problems: a) it took her almost a year to find a suitable role in new location, and I suspect an alternative will take even longer, and b) I don't want to leave the kids behind. While fully remote, the expectation is that I will be within some reasonable distance of office, so I wouldn't legitimately be able to travel back to see them and work from "second" home.
You're probably understanding the potential RSU upside by starting when the stock price is low.
I am, and had wife not had such a long notice period, I'd have doubled that upside by starting in back in Nov - but no such luck...
Become a super commuter unless wife lands a similar job. 30k is not worth compromising her job for.
Be the father and husband your kids would want you to be.
Working at Meta will ruin one’s family life
Upside: meta on resume Downside: ruin family’s life