Apple ICT4 offer evaluation

Got an offer which is technically a down level as per levels fyi, however It’s probably about the same. Offer was lower than I expected, and there seems to be no room to ask for ICT5. I am familiar with Austin I think it’s only slightly more expensive than Plano. There should be room on sign on, any thoughts? What about base/rsu, rsu is per year. Apple is also a better company, but I own a home and moving for basically the same salary makes me reconsider this. Also while TC is slightly higher, base is much lower. Currently at Capital One, 12 yoe

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Senior Software Engineer
Austin, TX, US • ICT4
TC: $327K
$165K
Base
$140K
Equity
$22K
Bonus
$40K
Sign-on
Senior Lead Engineer
Plano, TX, US • Staff
TC: $310K
$235K
Base
$45K
Equity
$30K
Bonus
-
Sign-on
Microsoft Tyler-drdn Feb 6

140k equity per year?

Capital One bxvsvvcqqq OP Feb 6

Yes

Microsoft Tyler-drdn Feb 6

No fkin way, this is one of the highest RSU for ICT4 I have seen

SCIEX Qqqp51 Feb 6

Did you leet for the Apple offer? What do Apple coding interviews look like?

Capital One bxvsvvcqqq OP Feb 6

Barelly any leetcode, was a more domain focused interview

Microsoft M1CR0S0FT Feb 6

Apple doesn’t do LeetCode.

Meta daycaredog Feb 6

I wouldn’t move for this, unless you really like the role at Apple and this is your way of entering into faang. I would atleast want a 15% bump in TC. Atleats ask for a bigger signon.

Capital One bxvsvvcqqq OP Feb 6

It can definitely be a good way to get into fang and jump later. Not sure how high sign on can go

Microsoft M1CR0S0FT Feb 6

I got an offer two years ago with an $85k sign-on bonus. It was still 🥜 because the base salary was too low. I echo @daycaredog, accept Apple’s offer only if you are a fanboy and/or want a foot into FAANG league.

Discover Financial Services swe76 Feb 6

Stay at C1. Very good salary.

Apple GTAVI Feb 6

Good offer

Meta nullptr510 Feb 6

Ex Apple ICT4 here (although I was in the Bay and not Austin). The RSU is pretty good for that level actually. Base can definitely improve but Apple is notorious for negotiations. Overall I think TC is good specially if you think Apple stock will keep going up. And yes getting in as ICT5 is tough and ICT4 is actually terminal at Apple. You didn’t mention your YOE btw so that may have a factor as well.

Capital One bxvsvvcqqq OP Feb 6

Thank you for the feedback, added yoe, 12 yoe. I would definitely like a higher base

Capital One TDPoop Feb 6

Negotiate and get out of capital one. Also take me with you.

Goldman Sachs kachra56 Feb 6

Apple vs a bank. Not sure if anyone is sane to think why FAANG does not matter.

Amazon BQgx62 Feb 6

Great offers, but do you really want to pick up and move for $10K a year. If you have any family in Plano, I wouldn't do it

Microsoft slothHERE! Feb 6

If you own a home, not worth it.

Capital One bxvsvvcqqq OP Feb 6

I own a home with with a 2.4% lock rate, which is definitely a factor to consider. I could buy a new home all cash in Austin, to avoid the high mortgage rates, but that would also leave me with much less market investments.

Salesforce SaleIsUp! Feb 6

Capital one offer is insane! My associate VP offer only pays 175k in Boston

Capital One bxvsvvcqqq OP Feb 6

It is my current job, not really a new offer

Oracle ocity Feb 7

Just a high performer getting 6% raises every year I see