Microsoft New Grad Offer: Update

A couple weeks ago I posted this 👇🏾 “I just got a new grad offer from Microsoft for a TPM. I worked for them as an intern last summer but didn’t get a return offer due to head count so I went through the recruitment process again and got hired again. This is what they offered so far. I’m currently interning at Google as an APM but I don’t know if I’m getting a FT return offer yet so I can’t use that to negotiate. and the only other FT offer I have is less than Microsofts. What should I counter with, if I counter at all. I have 3x internship experience if it makes any difference. Thanks! “ They initially offered Base pay: $118,400 Sign on: $30,000 over 2 yrs RSU: $100,000 over 4 yrs After negotiation they came back with Base: $118,400 Sign-on: $50,000 over 2yrs RSU: $120,000 over 4yrs. I’m ready to accept this as this is more than i ever imagined i could get but I just wanted to check here and make sure since I’m not experienced in negotiations and stuff. Thanks!

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Technical Program Manager
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TC: $172K
$118K
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$30K
Equity
$24K
Bonus
$50K
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Google UMDg13 May 3

Pretty sure base pay as an apm at Google is 155k-160k so would have been nice to see if u actually got it but nevertheless the offer is still good as a new grad, I would take it and be happy

Tesla 👻 🗑️_ May 3

Take it. The market is tough and you don't have a backup. Worst comes to worst, use this to negotiate with Google a d renege later

Nextdoor nzHC03 May 3

take it - we're in a bad market, ESPECIALLY for juniors. you can always upgrade salary and jobs later, but if you miss this, you might not get another opportunity right after. I know new grads still unemployed now after a year of search

Microsoft ulcc85 May 3

Don't expect 20% bonus.

Tesla 👻 🗑️_ May 3

Maybe he'll be a rockstar and land 200% rewards day in day out 😂

Remitly 🐘Platform🐘 May 3

Wtf… $170k as a new grad TPM? Take that and don’t look back

Blue Cross Blue Shield wasted106 May 4

Starting your career as tpm is a disaster move if you come from technical/CS background. You will see in future companies prefer employees from background with software engineering and no raw TPMs. Also its a very stall kind of role. After TPM there is no growth path. You are stuck.

Microsoft Riagg 🐶 May 4

This is BS. While SW Engineering is helpful experience, TPM has lots of career potential, and at MS can also move laterally quite easily into other disciplines (ex: product, user research, marketing). Switching into a SWE role can be harder after a few years, but in 5 years, AI will have lowered the barrier to entry for SWE roles, especially if you have a technical background. OP - that's a great offer in a tough job climate. Accept it, find a great mentor or two, and I hope you have a great career!

Gannett callmeroy May 4

Take it and run. Puts you 5 years ahead of most of your peers.

ex-Adobe iloveblind May 4

My l64 offer was 135k base, 40k stock over 4 years no sign on bonus

Tesla 👻 🗑️_ May 4

Damn. When was this?

PayPal opksgpak May 4

wow thats a nice offer.

Intel AnonGaudi May 4

You can accept and decline later, no one will put you in jail