I got 2 offers from Microsoft and Hulu, could you give me some advise on choosing one? MS (Redmond): 61 level, 130k base, 80k RSU (25% 1st year), 20k sign on Hulu (LA): 145k base, 43.5k long term incentive cash, 25k sign on Bird (LA): 135k base, 100k optional equity, 10k sign on All support H1B, MS waits 60 days to apply GC, Hulu waits 6 months to apply GC, Bird unknown. Looks Hulu wins on money, but I have a concern on her business because of Disney+ and others, and Microsoft’s benefits look better. P.S. Hulu’s long term incentive cash is kinda complicated. 70% would be fixed cash and pays out by 3 years, 30% would be depending on company’s performance, also calculated by 3 years but pays out at one time after 3 years. So roughly would be 10.15k for 1st y, 20.3 for 2nd y and 43.5 every year from 3rd y. Any thoughts? What if MS could match Hulu’s?
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Thank you, added it.
Hulu and Bird are risky for you since you are on H1B. My suggestion is go with MS. Also, what is optional equity?
Thank you for reply! Even though they sponsor H1B? Like 100k is the quota you can buy Bird’s stock (equity) with lower price and they will IPO with higher prices.
Microsoft would be the safe bet in long-term. Would be great if MSFT can match the offer. which team in MSFT?
Thanks for reply! Like, how long lol? Under identity division.
I don't think you're calculating your Hulu LTIP right. I'm assuming that's $43.5k annually?
Great Hulu guy’s here lol. Umm, honestly I feel it’s complicated to calculate and compare. Yes I think that’s annual. Would you mind pointing right way to calculate?
I have a LTIP calculator from the company. When I'm at my laptop I'll plug it in and let you know
Also on terms of stability, M is the most stable. But Hulu is not at risk. Disney is pumping in money to expand Hulu and go int'l so there's no big risk for at least a couple years.
Yeah I agree, Hulu at least has a back on Disney lol. That’s what I’ve been told in interview so I think it looks good. But do you feel Hulu looks like awkward, since Disney has its own true son lol?
The biggest thing that bothers me, and others, at Hulu is that we lack a real vision for the future. I wouldn't say things are awkward because of Disney+. It wouldn't make sense with the Disney brand to have all content on D+ so Hulu will remain its own separate product. And so far, Disney has respected our culture. Bob Iger, when he came and visited us in Santa Monica, said how much he values the unique Hulu culture and values us keeping it. Who knows if that'll really remain true, but as long as Bob is around, I don't see it changing since he is a man of his word. Hulu does have a great culture and is the most "fun" out of all companies you have offers from. So if you like to have fun and be part of the entertainment business, you'll like Hulu. M is more of a true technology company. Bird is a tech/transportation company. Haven't heard much about their culture even though they are next door.
What's bird?
I think this: https://www.bird.co/
Yes, Bird scooter, like Lime Bike.
What’s your current TC and YOE
Why leaving amazon?
Maybe sick of the bananas
Lolol not really
Microsoft has highest TC after taxes.
Because of state tax? I guess that would not be that much, considering Hulu’s long term cash?
Go with MSFT to have some sort of stability when the economy slows down in 2020 & beyond.
Oh good point that I didn’t think about, thank you! Economy looks good? I have no sense on this lol.
Industrial growth is down in most countries including China and India. Though that’s (industrial output) a small % of the global markets but it might be a leading indicator. Also, the yield curve inverted earlier this year which has been pretty consistent in predicting recessions. Based on these facts and a lot of research, I do feel things will slow down. It won’t be a crash by any means but will feel like death by a thousand cuts. Just my 0.02. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯