Design CareerSep 15, 2021
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Poll: Dropbox or Google?

Hi all, I received my numbers for these companies today. I also have an offer from GitHub but they didn’t give me any stock so it’s not even worth adding as an option here. Dropbox (virtual first, Seattle): Level: IC3 (similar to Google L4) Base: $180K Stock: $320K over four years with 1 year cliff Sign on: $10K Google (Seattle): Level: L5 Base: $158K Stock: $194K (33/33/22/12), need to check if monthly or quarter vesting Sign on: $10K Also, I could use more information about expected refresher numbers for both companies if possible. This is for UX design, as a FYI. Thanks so much! Current TC: 🥜 YOE: 6 #design #dropbox #google

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OYO omaewamou Sep 15, 2021

Location?

Microsoft rqpd71a OP Sep 15, 2021

Added, thanks!

TikTok gubi Sep 15, 2021

I thought dropbox IC2 is Google L4. In this case, easily Dropbox. Great Benefits and fully remote too

Microsoft rqpd71a OP Sep 15, 2021

I was told IC4 is senior at Dropbox

TikTok gubi Sep 15, 2021

IC3 is like L4.5 in Google

Google LongGoogle Sep 16, 2021

Are these offers for an SWE role? If so, your Google base salary and stock grants are too low for L5, even in Seattle.

Microsoft rqpd71a OP Sep 16, 2021

It’s for design

Google JilJungJuk Sep 17, 2021

Agree with @LongGoogle. What do you mean by "It's for design"? Care to elaborate?

BD Sunavagun Sep 16, 2021

Dropbox. Better reputation for design and higher compensation offer...Google could be great too tho, and you can probably negotiate that base up to your Dropbox offer. Weigh how you felt in the interviews too.

Amazon yVSc71 Sep 16, 2021

Congrats! Did you negotiate much yet? The Google numbers look quite different to what levels.fyi show for L5 product designers at Seattle, though I have no idea how representative that really is.

Microsoft rqpd71a OP Sep 16, 2021

Unfortunately this is after knowing Dropbox’s numbers. They bumped me from L4 to L5

Amazon yVSc71 Sep 16, 2021

Interesting to know! Still a decent result :)

Microsoft Map0316 Sep 17, 2021

I had a friend call me yesterday for Google’s L3 numbers in Seattle. They’re so low! Why doesn’t Google pay at least MSFT equivalent?

Microsoft rqpd71a OP Sep 18, 2021

I think G is really trying to take advantage of their brand equity now and seeing who will accept their low ball offers.

Facebook CkFK41 Sep 17, 2021

I would ask Google to match, if they do would go with Google

Microsoft rqpd71a OP Sep 18, 2021

This is Google’s attempt to match after knowing Dropbox’s offer.

Google penaldoo Sep 17, 2021

194k for L5? This seems wrong. Id expect 180k a year tbh

Microsoft djnNak19 Sep 17, 2021

Wow google overall tc got lower..isnt it?

Microsoft LCQl57 Sep 17, 2021

Did you ask G to match Dropbox? Also what team at G?

Microsoft rqpd71a OP Sep 18, 2021

This is G’s offer after knowing Dropbox’s numbers. I tried to negotiate more from here. My recruiter submitted a request to the comp team but it got denied.