data scientist here (more like product analytics). can i get paid more else where?

current base pay is 120k. Can other companies offer more pay or is my pay pretty competitive? 5 years of experience with progressively increased types of analysis(started with just sql, then sas, now using R and Python to build regression models to analyze product). Not deploying models living in washington state

Facebook alaljrff Aug 10, 2020

IC4 DS IC position @FANG offers about 200k TC

Hitachi Vantara vataran Aug 10, 2020

He is not a DS though. More of a business or product analyst.

Facebook alaljrff Aug 10, 2020

I’m referring to a product DS role.

Liberty Mutual Insurance MrDS OP Aug 10, 2020

200k is a lot! My TC with annual bonus is not even close. Does a FB product DS use any machine learning models to any extent?

Facebook alaljrff Aug 10, 2020

Not production model. But some use it to generate insight.

Liberty Mutual Insurance MrDS OP Aug 10, 2020

Nice! That’s exactly what I do!

Google snoopi Aug 10, 2020

Google L4 is also around 200-230k TC

Liberty Mutual Insurance MrDS OP Aug 10, 2020

Thank you! Is that ‘data science’ as in ML engineer, or ‘data science’ but more towards analyst?

Google snoopi Aug 10, 2020

More towards analyst(product analyst/ BIE/ data engineer) Data science in google is a PHD statistician role. TC for that is around 230 for L4.

Amazon xNpm80 Aug 11, 2020

Are you in PDM? You'll probably find it hard to crack FAANG DS, but you can join another job family (business intelligence engineer, technical program manager?) and if you want to stay, switch to data scientist. Since you're in Seattle I'd recommend getting a referral and joining Amazon at L5, you'll probably make slightly more. You'll grind more because Liberty has 3 days WFH and Amazon has high expectations, but you'll get an awesome name on your resume, won't pigeonhole yourself into insurance forever, and can finally get out of dealing with SAS.

Liberty Mutual Insurance MrDS OP Aug 11, 2020

Non-PDM. I think your last points (+pay) was the top reason for me wanting to consider somewhere else. I do agree WFH is good here though Thanks!

Amazon xNpm80 Aug 11, 2020

Okay, good luck and feel free to DM me if you need any help. I made the switch from Liberty to Amazon last year

Facebook nerd2.0 Aug 23, 2020

What level are you at LM?

Liberty Mutual Insurance LMFB Aug 23, 2020

16

Facebook nerd2.0 Aug 23, 2020

The base is ok. The problem is LM can’t compete because they don’t give you any equity. You can get higher base, higher bonus % and equity if you work at FAANG.