Whenever abortion comes up, I have a question I've been asking for ten years now of the "Life begins at Conception" crowd. In ten years, no one has EVER answered it honestly. It's a simple scenario with two outcomes. No one ever wants to pick one, because the correct answer destroys their argument. And there IS a correct answer, which is why the pro-life crowd hates the question. Here it is. You're in a fertility clinic. Why isn't important. The fire alarm goes off. You run for the exit. As you run down this hallway, you hear a child screaming from behind a door. You throw open the door and find a five-year-old child crying for help. They're in one corner of the room. In the other corner, you spot a frozen container labeled "1000 Viable Human Embryos." The smoke is rising. You start to choke. You know you can grab one or the other, but not both before you succumb to smoke inhalation and die, saving no one. Do you A) save the child, or B) save the thousand embryos? There is no "C." "C" means you all die. In a decade of arguing with anti-abortion people about the definition of human life, I have never gotten a single straight A or B answer to this question. And I never will. They will never answer honestly, because we all instinctively understand the right answer is "A." A human child is worth more than a thousand embryos. Or ten thousand. Or a million. Because they are not the same, not morally, not ethically, not biologically. This question absolutely evicerates their arguments, and their refusal to answer confirms that they know it to be true. No one, anywhere, actually believes an embryo is equivalent to a child. That person does not exist. They are lying to you. They are lying to you to try and evoke an emotional response, a paternal response, using false-equivalency. No one believes life begins at conception. No one believes embryos are babies, or children. Those who cliam to are trying to manipulate you so they can control women. Don't let them. Use this question to call them out. Reveal them for what they are. Demand they answer your question, and when they don't, slap that big ol' Scarlet P of the Patriarchy on them. The end.####politics #politics #politics #politics
They chose option C because they’re the one who started the fire in a suicide mission to burn down the fertility clinic because they believe that life begins at conception and fertility clinics facilitate mass murder.
You have a right to be born, but its okay to murder you once you're out. Or ensure you're born into crap living situation where you're just chattel. Hooray for the anti-choice crowd.
Truth.
We all know the real reason you are advocating for abortion. blackgenocide.org It's okay though, it isn't like you are the only racist on Blind.
Wrong, child.
Love these idiotic arguments that act like abortion is only a thing in the states.
Worst take ever. Doesn’t even make sense as others have pointed out. This, on the other hand, is gold: “Well, it’s not a life yet. It’s not a baby yet.” My gut tells me that doesn’t make sense. That would be like if I was making a cake, and I poured some batter in a pan, and I put it in the oven. And then five minutes later, you came by, and you grabbed the pan, and you threw it across the floor. And I’m like, ‘What the f*** you just ruined my birthday cake.’” And then you were like, ‘Well, that wasn’t a cake yet.’ I’m like, well, it would have been if you didn’t do what you just did. That would have been a cake in 50 minutes. Something happened to that cake, you cake murderer.” ~Bill Burr
Easy. You can be pro life and still select saving the child. Here's why. This scenario you presented is situational morality/ethics. Let's take an example of the same scenario except you are the only human alive in the world and you have to choose between either. Most people would choose the embryos. This analogy is not similar to pregnancy and pro life people feel like all people deserve the minimum right of living. Again, pro life position is about defending a life from being taken away.
This is dumb. The pro-life answer is A and there's no gotcha. It's obvious that taking option A has a high expectation of saving a life while B does not. You get the child to safety and the child probably lives. If you can't get the child to safety you probably weren't getting the embryos to safety. And even if you get the embryos to safety, there's the issue that there is a lot of uncertainty about the embryos even being able to survive the transport process out of the place. And if a fertility clinic would even use embryos that had been transported and handled in such a manner is an open question. Plus there's a good chance the embryos best chance of survival is staying in an unpowered freezer that might still survive the fire. The child won't survive without being removed from the building. Besides, a pure numerical comparison is only valid if you accept utilitarian arguments. If you change it to my kid or wife or brother versus two unknown people, I'm saving my kid/wife/brother. Sorry, doesn't make me an evil person. The challenge in the other direction is that if you really believe that an embryo/fetus is not a life, next time you have a friend who has a miscarriage, tell them "don't worry, it's just a blob of tissue". See? These issues are complicated and your silly gotcha situation doesn't resolve shit.
Wrong in every conceivable way, child.
Well shit, your logical argument destroyed every premise of mine.