who exactly is benefitting here? the data collected doesn't seem to be for folks are previously vaccinated and/or had covid infections which would be the vast majority right? #covid-19 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/omicron-targeting-covid-boosters-expected-this-week-but-experts-are-worried-there-may-be-low-uptake-11661783409
I haven't had covid yet, I will gladly take this booster
are you suggesting vaccines are keeping you from getting covid? because that's the opposite of the science of this vaccine, especially in the recent variants
@sunblock it's not worth it. These pharma bots are so brainwashed. You're not going to convince them. They probably still wear masks outdoors. It's best to move on and let them live in the hysteria. Everyone will eventually snap out of it. Even folks in the Bay area. Life is already 100% back to normal in most areas.
The immunity fades pretty quick, so many people will want to re-up their immunity. These will be extra effective against the new variant.
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Humans lucky enough to have access to a safe, effective, and free vaccine that reduces the risk of serious illness and death. Aka the majority of the population in developed countries.
"Safe and effective" is just a marketing slogan that you all mindlessly repeat.
No, it's a fact based on 3b completed vaccines. You don't need marketing. It prevents death and has almost no risk at all. Understand that the conspiracy theories are super against data and prefer unsubstantiated wild claims but that's up to them.
People who were previously vaccinated or have had past COVID infections still benefit from the booster. The new booster targets the newest Omicron strain, whereas past vaccines have targeted the original Wuhan variant. The virus has obviously significantly evolved since then, which has led to the original vaccines becoming significantly less effective. It's indeed time for a refresh.
Money, what else? They will sell it to the government for billions and government workers get kickbacks making millions. It's circle of life.
Are you guys retarded? Its like the flu vaccine even if you get the flu its going to be much less intense. But honestly go ahead and get covid. World is too populated as it is.
flu vaccine don't work that way, if you get the popular variant they created the vaccine for it helps avoid it and not get sick unlike this vaccine, if you get a different virus go fish. the whole vaccine helps you be less sick seems generally new and applicable to covid vaccine (any pre 2020 vaccines we used to say this about?) . then again tons of people don't bother with the flu vaccine if you know you are not particularly susceptible.
That's not true, lots of breakthrough cases with the flu vaccine. COVID is the same. You won't get the strain you're vaccinated against. If you get it, it's some mutated variant, just like with flu. With flu the reason the less sick thing isn't as big is because we have all had the flu in the past and all beef vaccinated against it a zillion times. That's true with COVID *now* but it sure wasn't in 2020 when none of us had any defense against it. It's killing less people now because everyone has some Lenten 8 of immunity even if it breaks through, just like flu.
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OP here is my take based on spending the pandemic reading as much about how the immune system works as I could. Not a doctor but now pretty well read on THIS topic. TLDR: I think you will get very little benefit if you have had COVID/booster in the last three months, some benefit if you have had COVID or a booster in the last 5-6 months, and substantial benefit if you haven't had either in the past six months. That's the TLDR; here is the long answer why: That's because of the way your immune system works. When you get exposed it spins up a "germinal center" in a lymph node that keeps mutating existing antibodies to create new variations (a process called "somatic hypermutation" if you want to google this topic) that attach in better ways to the virus. That germinal center stays active for 2-4 months after exposure, the whole time making better and better antibodies. At some point the germinal center shuts down, basically because it runs out of samples of the virus to work on. This happens typically between 12 and 16 weeks after exposure. At that point you still have lots of antibodies in your blood but you're no longer inventing new ones. A few months after that the circulating antibodies also wane, though your system still remembers how to make them again if it needs to. What happens if you take the vaccine while the germinal center is still up and running is basically nothing: you're already making antibodies, and the antibodies already in your blood destroy most of the vaccine. Very little additional antibody invention will happen that wasn't already happening,, so the vaccine has very little effect. Between 3-6 months the germinal center isn't running anymore but you still have lots of antibodies. Those antibodies will destroy most of the vaccine. Your memory cells will build lots of antibodies again, but mostly the same old ones you had. The germinal center will spin up but since lots of vaccine got destroyed only a little invention of better antibodies happens. You got some benefit from pumping up the antibodies in you blood and a little bit of new antibody invention, but only a little since you existing antibodies destroy most of the vaccine. Once the circulating antibodies wane, after 5-6 months, you get the maximum benefit of the booster. Since you have few circulating antibodies very little of the vaccine gets destroyed. The germinal center spins back up and has lots of material to work with to invent better and better antibodies. It will also renew your circulating antibodies, now with a much more diverse set. This is the most benefit. Open question as to how many times around inventing new antibodies matters. I imagine after your 4th or 5th dose you have really got pretty good antibodies going so it may not make a big difference, but after 6m you at least have the benefit of the germinal center working full out on trying.
Imagine thinking that constantly injecting yourself with a โvaccineโ is more effective than the immune system developed over millions of years.
They aren't making them for me! I'm over all of this bullshit.
Vaccines are why we can be over it...
Oh gtfo you brainwashed goon. The narrative is even crumbling at this point. They knew the vaccine didn't stop transmission and most masks are useless. The cdc and Dr Birx admitted it at this point. Update your brainwashed ideological programming you foolish moron.