Snowflake : how much time for IC3 -> IC4?

Hello, I have an offer from Snowflake for SWE IC3 and I wonder if I should have interviewed for IC4 as I have 11 yoe and scope of work is org wide. I have already accepted the IC3 offer though. Would it be worth asking recruiter if they can consider me for IC4 by having few follow-up interviews? If not, I still want to join at IC3 but would need to know if it is possible to become IC4 in 1 year? L64 (hope to become L65 this year) Tc ~250k IC3 offer : ~460k #snowflake

Uber koolaidde Apr 22

There's a reason why they are hiring in Seattle area. Because they can trap the low paid Microsoft Oracle and Amazon talent. Here in the Bay Area even hiring 3 YOE IC3s is an uphill battle.

Microsoft sjsv OP Apr 22

They dont hire 3 yoe at ic3. Need atleast 5-6 yoe.

Microsoft sjsv OP Apr 22

Msft pay is low, yes. But snowflake interviews were not easy by any means.

Amazon FNFg78 Apr 22

Hey can I DM you for interview details!

Microsoft sjsv OP Apr 22

I got 2 lc hard (not company tagged unfortunately), 1 sys design, 1 expertise round, 2 behavioral.

Amazon FNFg78 Apr 22

Any Dynamic programming question ? I got DP in phone screen.

Oracle VdaT82 Apr 22

@op , what is expertise round?

Microsoft sjsv OP Apr 22

You explain past projects in that round

Snowflake snowic Apr 22

IC4 in one year is really hard at face value. You don’t get a rating your first partial quarter and generally get Meets Expectations your first full, so that’s already 3-5 months down the drain. Then you need 3 consecutive high perf quarters to be considered, making a minimum of 12-14 months without even considering the timing of promotion review cycles. I’ve been told two years is fast.

Microsoft sjsv OP Apr 22

This helps, thanks. Since may-july is a quarter there, if one joins in june or mid may then there wont be any perf rating for that qtr and the first full qtr aug-oct will mostly be meets expectations? Would it be worth asking recruiter to consider for ic4 given i have already accepted offer for ic3?

Snowflake snowic Apr 23

Yep to the first question. For the second, I doubt they’ll reconsider if you’ve already accepted.

Snowflake mudkdk Apr 22

You should worry about surviving first.

Microsoft sjsv OP Apr 22

Why do you say so? They have been hiring a lot this year

Snowflake cefans Apr 23

This usually applies to someone come from less intensive places.

Amazon eldrago Apr 23

How did you prepare for coding rounds to solve 2 lc hards, any suggestions

Microsoft sjsv OP Apr 23

I focused on blind 75 mainly due to lack of time.

Amazon FNFg78 Apr 23

After phone screen. How much time did it take for them to get back with the results !

Microsoft sjsv OP Apr 23

~a week

Snowflake cefans Apr 23

11 yoe still at L64 means something. IMO newly promoted L65 is still a "senior". I don't believe a L64 can drive org wide projects, you do understand what is drive what is participate? My point is set your expectations correctly, and be happy with the IC3 offer at such a sig jump in your TC.

Microsoft sjsv OP Apr 23

Promotions are sometimes times detached from the work you do. In my case, multiple manager changes, bad managers, reorgs, projects getting cut midway, org having low budget, etc have delayed my promos.

Snowflake cefans Apr 23

This applies to everyone, you are not principal engineer. So no chance you can be considered as IC4.

Snowflake slowflake Apr 23

I think IC3 for L64 is very reasonable. Worth noting, this is also a good, but not great, IC3 offer.

Microsoft sjsv OP Apr 23

Thanks. Whats a great IC3 offer for bay area?

Snowflake slowflake Apr 23

No idea, but I’m an IC2 and make about this much even with the stock drop

Snowflake ex-aviato Apr 25

2-3 years if you have a really good manager with impressive project scope. But if your manager is like mine who thinks only about his survival and can’t defend or sell his team, you’re not going to get promoted soon.

Microsoft sjsv OP Apr 25

Damn. My recruiter also said no for ic4 snce i already accepted the offer. I think its best to try for E6 or L6 outside after a year.

Snowflake ex-aviato Apr 26

Hard agree. If you’re not coming in as IC4, don’t waste time here as IC3. Interview elsewhere