Nike PM director offer

I like Nike but wouldn’t move unless it was substantial. Goog refreshers and such are good and google will not have layoffs or anything anytime soon. Nike depends on retail for the most part Also how do benefits stack up?

Where do you currently live? I know they require relocation. Beaverton is family suburbs

Nice offer, congrats. Evaluate if transition back into tech will be challenging? Is this software eng or pm? You could get similar offer from a tech company IMO.

Won't Google match?

Congrats on your offer!! Nike doesn’t have good work culture honestly. They idolize long working hours and also lots of legacy tools still being used

That’s a very solid Nike offer. At a 25% bonus is this s-band / Sr.Director? Director E-band is 20%. Initial stock offer is very high. Nike is very stingy with stock. Only E-band plus get stock. Nike has a ton of challenges right now.. especially in tech. We’ve been going through a rolling reorg+layoffs for the past 18months and it’s been the worst handled cluster I’ve ever seen in my career. Trust and morale are very low right now. Some of the worst leadership I’ve ever seen. Attrition has gone parabolic. I would be very careful about making the move. Nike has limited themselves to just making apparel and footwear. A very narrow minded approach especially compared to Google’s potential long term. IMHO Nike is just riding the wave of stimulus spending / brand appeal and is running out of time. TLDR: Ask yourself what you would really hope to get out of an opportunity at Nike. Do your own research on Nike and come to your own conclusion.

I left Nike recently and joined Google as a Program Manager. Despite the large learning curve on internal tools, documentation and data scattered in hundreds of rabbit holes, I feel more valued, have a great manager/team, and the culture is a 180 from Nike. The learning resources are amazing. The pay is better, stock , refreshers, benefits, etc. I am supposed to relocate to CA, but my manager is being very flexible. I grew my career at Nike, led a wide variety of programs across Global Tech, met some very talented and "do the right thing" people. Some became close friends. I'm thankful for opportunities I had there, but didn't come out of the berm unscathed. However, as said already, now's not the best time to join. The culture is very political and toxic, talented people are overlooked. Winter is coming and Hunger Games are in season. The wokeness is nauseating, but they have to dodge legal dumpster fires and the marketing propaganda to attract talent, which they pay better. There was no investment in current talent and pay was below market - even for Portland metro. But the Swoosh has brand power Executive leadership is killing the soul of the brand. You can feel the fakeness at every all hands. Some of the leadership decisions are the worst I've seen and many talented people have left for much better roles and pay. The attrition rates are astounding. Everyone in global tech is either demoted, promoted, re-titled - some in totally different roles. Now everyone is just getting the news of the flying formation and learning how they are supposed to work together. It will be at least 2 years before it gets better. You could try to use the chaos to your advantage. I waited until they told me my role/reorg status. Then I resigned the next day. I was already working for Google. Only then did they ask what it would take to keep me. I would say try for the AI company, keep Nike warm until then. Nike is not a tech company. But, that could also be to your advantage to make an impact. Good luck and may the odds be in your favor.

Nike, they did not let me create a blind account. I am still using my old blind account. Ever since I joined I am only hearing people complaint about each other behind their backs. Everyone loves to boast about how they work long hours. Most of the employees in tech are from a certain country and of a certain gender, and also they are all converted after working for years in the consulting companies like wipro and infosys. It looks like they are living in a small world of their own. I have seen people working really crazy long hours and I have told them multiple times not to do it still they do it. There is no single source of truth for data management. Things are in AWS but they have so many things in legacy tools. It’s so hard to learn all these legacy tools, because one it’s not open source sp forget learning them or debugging them on google or stack overflow. Having a dependency on other team means wait for two to three weeks to just get a simple approval or to get them to add a small object in their Database which is another stupid legacy software. Things break every now and then and to deploy a simple code piece we have to wait 2 hours. Ok,after doing all this, it’s entirely up to leadership if they want to treat you nice. They can talk however they want to talk. Looks like there is no leadership training given to them. My teammates are scared to talk to their leaders. And also it’s very common to see people online after office hours 😂 I feel pity for them. Also I do not respect a leader who likes to work long hours. My boss said to me multiple times proudly that he works from 6 am to 8 pm every day and his family members call him guest appearance. And also his wife brings him food that he forgets to eat!!! He also told me that other departments also have long hours. Probably I was unlucky to land in a crappy team and I did not get to interact with other people. The influx of work is so pitiful I want to vomit. No one explains what is the outcome. What are we doing, why are we doing it. They expect new joiners to understand everything magically, it’s hilarious. No training, no documentation of these crappy tools. They take ages to hire replacements of critical roles like product managers and team leads. Follow up as much as you want, things will take their own sweet time. It’s a weird and confusing mix of laid back and “aggressive” work culture. Of course like any other place there are talented people who will be a delight to work with. But they are a tiny bunch unfortunately. Had no intentions to leave when I joined, but I am leaving, can’t take it anymore. I got another job with better salary and equity and no legacy bs. When I told my boss, who has been here for ages, he told me that they invested “hundreds of thousands” on me and now all that is going to waste. He was really rude. But I kind of expected a similar response knowing him.

This is pretty jarring, never seen a company bashed on here so hard…doesn’t take a genius to figure out this offer probably isn’t worth it…

If you want to retire happily with 0 ambitions, welcome to Nike.