Shopify employees : Are you good?? They're pitting you against each other? wtf
https://www.theinformation.com/articles/shopify-employees-go-head-to-head-for-raises-in-new-ranking-system Can any shopify employees speak about this? Does this not seem super toxic? What do you all think?
This is everywhere
According to the article, raises are based on increasing your score, not how you score amongst peers
Managers will have their scores overwritten if they giving too many good scores. Infact management is known to blatantly overwrite manager scores and make them lower solely due to org budgets. Source: friends at Shopify
Yeah Amazon does the same thing, especially now since they don't want to promote anyone. It's still like any other company though in the sense you are always "competing" with your peers. There is only so much budget to go around, can't promote and give raises to everyone, every year. So they don't based on merit. Problem is with companies like Amazon where data is manipulated by managers so in the end it's about who you know and who likes you.
Super normal and fun
We’ve never had some standardized way of ranking across the company. Now we do. We all got our approximate Mastery number which is shrouded in mystery on how the initial number was determined. What we do know is that our TC has an outsized influence on what our initial number is. So, if you are currently being paid more than others in the company, then you most likely will have a higher number. We also got a visual of our number on a bell curve to give some perspective. The further to the right you are (high Mastery), it most likely will mean it’ll be harder to raise our number during impact reviews, thus lower chance of getting a raise unless you killed it. There’s also an input system that accounts for how your peers feel you performed and if they think we can’t live without you. So the individual’s Mastery number really is about you moving it up, not that it moves at the expense of your peer. You actually want to be liked and helping your peers because like Survivor, they get a vote in the end.
This is super helpful/detailed but also 😬. IMO the whole point of great impactful engineers is to NOT feel like we can't live without you. Enabling/lifting others, improving systems/velocity. Not "hey I'm the only one that knows the secret formula". Of course if instead we're talking about "hey this person really makes a difference to our team" that's more understandable. The last thing I want to do as a professional is think about playing survivor in the workplace 🥴
Ah better than here
Welcome y’all!
How do you think raises in all other companies work? Not everyone at the same level makes the same compensation. At least this is a bit more transparent.
Some of the issues with it are people who got promoted to roles that should be paying more no longer get that raise. There are no promotions. Every internal move is lateral with a possibility of a pay rise
"Shopify Mastery" is a weird way to brand it, but every high-performance company has some version of this. Generally, if you're a high performer or your manager likes you, it helps you get more money.
Being a high performer only works if your manager likes you, so at the end it is all about your manager’s perception
Promos don’t come with raise, what other high performance company does that?
Oh, should I transition to teach the snake game
Gotta get that $$$ upfront!
Welcome to Amazon ecosystem
I was going to say the same. Sounds like Amazon.
Isn’t meta same aswell