Should I go from brcm to Apple with minimal pay raise?

I am an ICB6 hardware eng with $196k+30% cash bonus + $160k rsu (Tc 416~436 bacause cash bonus can go up to $90k). I’ll have a guaranteed $730k worth of RSU to vest over the next 7 years. Apple recruiter called out of a blue and I passed the interview. Their initial offer was $220+ $60k cash bonus plus $750k RSU to vest in 4 years. It is ICT5. The cash sign on bonus will barely cover the money that I’ll leave on the table by leaving Brcm (mainly the anual bonus). The rest will translate into $440k for the first full year Assuming 15% cash bonus. They are very firm on this numbers. seems like a take it or leave it situation. I was hoping to get a TC of $470 the first full year. The field is new and interesting. yoe: 15+ education: phd location: cupertino. I wonder if I should accept and what to expect from Apple down the road in terms of finantial growth and experience. Any advise is highly appreciated. PS: I realize the recruiter can easily recognize me from the data I provided above. Hi JV :). I really meant what I said in my last email.

Google tigerbalm May 15, 2020

Stocks & prestige

Broadcom Ltd. madad OP May 15, 2020

But Brcm is equally good in terms of rsu grants if not better. Also I have a good wlb. Main reason for considering the move was that I was bored with my current work.

Google tigerbalm May 15, 2020

New & interesting work is already worth the move imo. I’d do it 😊

Cisco takecountr May 15, 2020

Hard pass and tell them to pay more if they want you to jump into an unknown lol

Intel XMvl25 May 15, 2020

Its really a good position to be in. I would start considering long term goals. If you can see long term growth potential and have good leaders(managers/VP/fellow etc) who understand your potential and can offer you growth at BRCM. I would pass the Apple offer. After a certain level, credibility and connections matter and they can take a while to build.

Broadcom Ltd. madad OP May 15, 2020

No I don’t see much room to grow where I am. That was my main reason to put myself through the grueling interviews in the first place. I admit it is good problem to have. Especially in these times. I am thankful whatever happens.

Intel XMvl25 May 15, 2020

Then give it a shot - Can boomerang back if you didn’t like it. What are the refreshers like at ICT5? Did the recruiter share that.

Broadcom Ltd. YUCS32 May 15, 2020

asic design?

Broadcom Ltd. madad OP May 15, 2020

Digital design. More like an architect position. No rtl coding.

Amazon Appleee May 15, 2020

Apple offer seems nice given higher base and direct pocket cash. New and interesting field is important! Tech is changing fast and trying new tech keeps you relevant!

Broadcom Ltd. madad OP May 15, 2020

All good points. Thanks.

Amazon Appleee May 15, 2020

see you at Apple!

SpaceX ujnhh22 May 15, 2020

I would think clearly as to how much growth you would expect if you were to contunue at Brcm. As in 4 to 5 years from now. Yoe 15+ after Phd or you are including 5 years of phd too ? Congrats

Broadcom Ltd. madad OP May 15, 2020

After PhD. But I am changing field from chips used in backend to chips used in consumer products. Thanks.

Broadcom Ltd. Brcm40 May 22, 2020

Did you take the offer ? I’m in similar situation I’m icb6 at Broadcom . Recruiter said my expectation of TC ~510k/yr (182+ 275+ 60i) way out of the range what Apple can offer . Waiting for the numbers from recruiter

Broadcom Ltd. YUCS32 May 22, 2020

why do u want to make a change then? 510k is a lot of money

Broadcom Ltd. Brcm40 May 22, 2020

Want to move away from networking to ML

Broadcom Ltd. rd$36sw Jun 22, 2020

OP , the apple TV numbers work against u. At brcm, ic6 gets 90% ++ rsu refreshers and wlb is very good. Apple can be a shit hole in terms of wlb and commute.