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L6 being a dick, should I reroute complaint to L7?

I sent in a message asking about a system I’ve never used and am pretty unfamiliar with. I expressed all that. We chatted and reached the answer I needed and then the L6 sent a pretty aggressive few messages in a row. I can’t give more specifics without reveling myself but it was clear the intent was to put me down. This feels extremely unprofessional anywhere; let alone highly padded Google, let alone an L6, let alone someone I don’t know. Considering sending in a message to their L7 with a screenshot and let them figure out how they want to proceed. It genuinely made me feel like shit for a couple days. Advice?

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Snap ifyiusme Feb 27

Are you sure you weren't chatting with Gemini?

Google studysysd Feb 27

let your manager handle it

Google studysysd Feb 27

L7 might be an even bigger asshole since they work together

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broken_egg Feb 28

@OP welcome to the world of politics and office bullying. My first reaction is that you are too sensitive and weak to even protect your self and person trashing you is a well trained dick who knows that people like you will suck up his bad behavior......but on 2nd thought think of it from political perspective(assuming you are not weak and can literally trash back the office bully): L6 kicked you because he knows he has the power and support. He just wanted to show you your place in the corporate chain. He must have backing from EM and L7 and must be best friends with them. So your complaint will worsen your situation unless you are best friends with EM and L7 and is high performing IC. Your best bet is to cut him from and win over EM and L7 to the extent that they will support you when next conflict happens. Once you achieve that, then it will be your turn to go and have a fight with him on purpose and show him his place(trash the bully). If you cann't do above, then get into the corporate ladder queue and start sucking dk of the guy who insulted you else he will make it hard for you to survive :)

Microsoft TnIu47 Feb 27

Did he tell something along the lines of: 1) please don’t waste my time like this 2) this is easy. I don’t understand how difficult it is for you to do that. 3) This needs to be done by eod. It’s urgent 4) what you are working on is not a priority. We should always prioritize production issue 5) why didn’t u do this?

Google DisStress OP Feb 27

Nope. Rougher than that.

Google DisStress OP Feb 27

And if it matters, I didn’t start this chat. Someone else linked us for me to ask

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labouche Feb 27

Semantics is tough if it’s just on chat. Is it crystal clear he was being a dick?

Google DisStress OP Feb 27

If he meant it in a nice/neutral way, he needs to be instructed on that too. Most people would think this is rude.

Expedia Group arcinm Feb 27

Share with your manager in your 1:1 with screenshots and take his advice on how to handle it

LinkedIn I am a Cat Feb 27

Just respond with the 🤡 emoticon.

ex-Snap 👻 I Left Feb 27

The best answer IMO is to immediately tell the offender. I once got an unacceptable response from a higher level engineer. I immediately sent him a meeting link to talk. I told him “You said X. Is that an appropriate answer to a colleague?” or something to that effect. He apologized and explained some drama he had. After that, I would say we became closer. Telling the manager creates more worry because you don’t even know when/if the manager talks to the guy and who knows what at what time. But it’s better than nothing, and it’s probably the way to go if you didn’t address the issue immediately (it doesn’t hurt to try talking to the mf anyway, since that way you feel you gave him a chance before involving 3rd parties, but the mf will likely criticize you for not speaking immediately, distracting from the main point). I can sense this mf told you something pretty offensive. Do tell your manager at least, send the screenshot in that case. Hopefully you talk to the mf first. Good luck. These are very annoying things we need to learn to deal with.

ex-Google lfgggggggg Feb 27

If it's L6/L7 far enough away from your org that there's no way in hell it could end up becoming gossip in your org, talk to your manager, but DONT do anything yourself without at least running it by them to see if their reaction is "hell no". I was always surprised how plugged in people were across orgs and they might have more data than you on it, i.e. maybe the L7 is a known dick too and he's actually your skips skips college roommate In general, ugh, it was never ever ever ever worth it to bring stuff like this up in my experience. people could do outright crazy shit and if you complain, because of how...idk...contrarian? asocial? Inexperienced with jobs in general? tech people are, it always ends up being reframed as a challenge you should rise to / a sign you're burned out. The rest and vesters permanently skewed conversation at the company to the point you have to pretend you're a Buddhist monk with complete control of your emotions, which is unfortunate, because it creates a management lawyer who can pretend that _and_ be abusive when they can get away with

Meta fptnma Feb 27

Go cry to your mom about it

Google AIChatBot Feb 28

@Meta Feeling personally attacked? you are part of the problem