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I see enough posts on this, i started reading more about this on the internet. Washington Post has a good article summarizing the issue and a few solutions that are being introduced/discussed. https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/the-employment-green-card-backlog-tops-800000-most-of-them-indian-a-solution-is-elusive/2019/12/17/55def1da-072f-11ea-8292-c46ee8cb3dce_story.html I highly encourage ppl, especially American citizens, to read the article to familiarize themselves to this matter. Here are a few interesting excerpts i wasn’t aware: ———— An analysis by the Congressional Research Service in 2018, conducted before the bill was introduced, found that Indians would make up almost the entire backlog for a minimum of four to five years. An analysis by the Cato Institute calculated it would take eight years. Many prominent immigration attorneys have backed Kurzban’s analysis. Kurzban calculated that the backlog would grow from more than 800,000 people today to 1.1 million in 2029. Because most of the backlogged Indians work in the tech industry, the shift would mean that high-skilled workers in other areas “like health care and medical research . . . will be shut out of residency for well over a decade,” Kurzban wrote. “Potential new Americans in basic science, engineering, chemistry, physics, artificial intelligence, climate change and many other fields who are not Indian nationals will be discouraged from ever coming to the U.S.” Adding to the complexity, most of the backlogged Indians are on specialist H1-B visas, which are perpetually renewable for those in the backlog — making it possible to wait — while other nationalities typically come on other types of visas that cannot be renewed if an immigrant intends to stay. A long wait thus becomes impossible. “The wait will be so long that non-Indian workers won’t be able to get in line,” said Michelle Canero, another immigration attorney who ran her own analysis of the numbers. Canero also said that direct foreign investment, almost none of which comes from India, will suffer because foreign companies will not be able to move their top professionals into the United States to run their satellite offices. “Every year, foreign direct investment adds about $300 billion to our economy,” Canero said. “About 85 percent is European and Canadian. . . . If we now say that these foreign nationals who establish their operations here can no longer immigrate to oversee their investment, I think we’re going to see a deterrence.” The projections have drawn an array of non-Indian immigrant groups, such as United We Dream, a coalition of recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, and the National Iranian American Council, to back Durbin’s proposal. The American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) has joined them, and Rep. Donna Shalala (D-Fla.) introduced a companion bill in the House.
Yet another one 🥱
Iranians lobbied against the reforms because they are addicted to quick GC, and they are the ones scaremongering in this article as well. The end game is movement of a large section of the tech industry to India and a large section of Indians who came in last 10 years to move back with their jobs to their home country. Some will move happily, others will do it kicking and screaming.
I’ll be kicking and screaming
Some will move to Canada, others will get sponsored through kids turning 21 … eventually it’s in the interest of the USA and tech industry particularly that these folks get some permanence so they can contribute more by taking risks, consuming more, paying taxes etc I don’t think country caps are going away, the AILA lobby, row immigrants and hence entire dem establishment are all against it. So focus should instead be on increasing numbers and improving state of ead/ap and early adjustment of status
How about no Green cards until unemployment rate in STEM is less than 2% and everyone has a good paying job based on cost of living? Buy American and Hire American 🇺🇸🇺🇸 Visa and Green card Rules are working perfectly as they were intended to. It’s just that people from one country are famous for abusing and clogging every immigration system there is since they want to leave their home country by any means.
Right, everyone must be scamming and lying. It should have nothing to do with the fact that 1/7 people on the planet belong to that country and they are given same quota as much much much smaller countries.
And that’s just the way it is. This isn’t India. It’s USA. No obligation to allow x-fold number of people just since the population of your home country is higher. What’s the benefit for USA?
A country’s economic prosperity reflects its citizens’ ability to build a successful country. GC cap is there for a reason.
Just read history to understand what the reason is.
As long as most indian people scam h1b, it should stay it this way.
It's ironic that your passage is calling Indians, Indians even after they lived for a decade in America waiting for green card. While the passage is calling others "potential new Americans" even though they haven't landed in America yet. If you can't see the bias then it's unfortunate. Indians are one in every 6 people in the world. Compare that to New Zealand. The population of New Zealand is 1/7th of California. How is per country cap fair. Note that I have no skin in the game as I already have green card after waiting a decade. Also house hold TC is 1M + for few years now, including before GC. So we have been paying more taxes than entire salary of many people in this platform. Also note that I stayed at same employer to avoid any delay in GC for years. Now imagine how much more my TC and accomplishments would have been if I had the opportunity to job hop.
+100 , just imagine how much risk taking it would unlock …. Same here no skin in game but can’t believe how uneducated and toxic the discourse is around this topic.
Why do we need foreign talent workers when we have enough available here in the US. Why can’t we train them and put them on jobs? Most big tech including Google want slave labor tied to low salary forever so that Pichai can make $225M in salary every year.
So much bias - just enforce country caps on H1B too and call this done. People like status quo and they don’t give a shit about Indians in backlog. Net result is going to be the tech industry moving to India - we already see this happening with all of big tech expanding hiring in India last few years. The move to India is only going to increase - there is nothing wrong in that as well.
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The are other non popular solutions... Move IT professionals to H2 instead of H1. Or country cap on H1B or country cap by profession. Just be aware of what you are asking for..IT profession is popular at this point in time in history and no one might care abt it in few decades or years.. currently any IT graduate from any country qualifies for a H1B. Consider that a blessing.
I encourage you to add your TC.
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