I run a team of around 5 people. The current team make up is Me (Indian, Male) A (Indian, Male) B (White, Male) C (Indian, Male) D (East Asian, Male) E (Hispanic, Male) The team dynamic is that A essentially does all the work (by far), is extremely smart technically (comes up with very clever solutions), and lets everyone on the team take in the spoils and take credit to make it seem balanced. He works around 80 hours a week. Me and A have a very candid and personal relationship and A is OK with the situation and likes to be seen as the silent hero. A has been with the company for 5 years and isn’t going anywhere. B,D,E are fairly normal/average engineers, and C is probably the worst performing, but that doesn’t really matter since A outpaces them by a mile. C has indicated recently wanting to leave as well (retire/FIRE), and I am hiring C’s backfill. Our peer teams all have to work 60 hrs/week, however, thanks to A the rest of us get to have a decent WLB at 30 hrs/week. B,D,E have all (maybe jokingly) indicated they would likely leave for better WLB if A wasn’t around. Anyways, we recently finished final rounds. There are two main people, one is a white woman (G) who I’d classify as doing well in the interview. Then, there is an Indian male (H) who I’d say is barely lean hire. It seems like the obvious choice, however, A has candidly confided to me that he will never work with a woman, and will likely either leave the company or scale back work and contributions significantly. Hiring H would keep the current team dynamics similar as H would likely be similar performance to C. Hiring G would mean a whole lot of work for the rest of us and maybe my team falling apart. I highly doubt A will be switching companies anytime soon unless it’s because of G. G is good but no way compares to A. How would you handle this? I could obviously go ahead with hiring G, report A to HR/let him quit. I can get away with justifying either hire to my manager for reference, and my own manager isn’t super aware of the dynamics of A doing all the work (as A lets the credit be distributed). A has no prior issues with working with minority groups on our team or women on other teams, just when it’s directly on his team for reference. I do have a moral issue with rejecting G on this basis and believe this may cause issues in the future with A. BTW, what A said was not in writing, and there is no evidence. TC 470
Managers, how do you deal with all the racial hiring bias by Indians?
How about you as a manager? Average or?
I get good perf ratings thanks to the work of A! A also sometimes advises me on management things and has made the right call many many times. This is the first “red flag” in years on this team (never came up in the past).
So basically A does all the work and when you want your way, you still want him to help you? That's not fair to A. Let him scale back, hire whoever you want and start taking responsibility for your contributions.
You need a poll to figure out that person A is a dick and morally unsound? Hire the woman and let person A leave.
whatever you choose report A
Trying to influence hiring with sexism....?
@cloud69 exactly! Imagine reporting someone literally carrying the work of incompetent colleagues and one of the colleague reporting him to HR. Hilarious.
Anyone who admits they would never work with a woman has got to go immediately
I don't mind working with women (so far) and do it regularly, but am completely sympathetic to someone who is not comfortable with it in modern times. Some women have told me privately that they don't like working with other women either due to the back biting and gossiping that usually comes with it. Also, in modern culture/society if you make the wrong joke or they misinterpret a playful interaction, that can easily get you fired. It's more complicated than just "sexism".
No it's not more complicated, it's literally just sexism, but an even more cowardly version. Be an adult and work, if you're so scared about getting fired for harassing women then stop harassing women. It's not that hard
you already know what you should do.
Not really, at the end of the day, G is a person I’ve barely met and I’d be purposefully making my life much more difficult. We could find legal (and even technical ability) reasons to reject G
So you can either be a spineless sexist creep or you can do the right thing. If you don’t know what to do, I’m glad I’m not working with you.
As he should. Otherwise don't depend on A to complete work.
Easy. Fire A.
Promote A to a different team.
Sounds like A is a 10x engineer.
This is nuts.
Oddly interesting to read
We all know he’s going to reject the woman LOL. High-performers always dictate the culture, no matter how toxic it is.