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Do they always pay low or am I getting scammed? ME design/analysis position with 2yoe, was asked salary preferences and they wouldn’t provide a band so I said 95-100k. The lady sounded surprised and said that’s on the high end and would likely be 15k lower. Are my salary expectations too high for Midwest?
The old aerospace industry damn near has colluded to keep aerospace wages low. That combined with how distributed the geography is (of the aero companies) reduces turnover (and talent) which in turn reduces competition, and thus they can pay peanuts.
Also I might add these jobs are way way overstaffed just for the occasional fire drill which never comes. Be prepared to have like 5 hours of work a week. You could do 3 of these jobs simultaneously, remotely. 85k x 3 = 255k. Sounds more like it 🤣. (They probably don’t allow remote though)
Truth. I just got out of aerospace and they really cap you.
Try automotive, can do much better, even in the Midwest
Unfortunately have zero interest in automotive
Me neither, but I'm still here
GE Aviation in the midwest doesn’t pay high at all. I would try to go with GM, Ford, FCA, or General Dynamics. Let me know if you want to get connected. I used to work for GM, Ford, GE, etc.
yes. Midwest jobs pay very low, they can get away with this because most people aren't career driven and more family driven and will take the low pay steady income that still let's them own a home comfortably
Aerospace manufacturing is actually very low margin. It's largely propped up by governments that need it around as a national interest. That also means that pricing can get pretty cutthroat. Manufacturing in general is low margin. Engineers are compensated in kind. That's why so much of it takes place in the Midwest in the first place. If you want to be paid more as a mech e, learn a skill that's in prime demand for a high margin company like Apple and work there instead. GE, P&W, Boeing, Textron, etc etc all pay crap. Wages have hardly risen at all since I first started paying attention on 2008.
Agree. Think, tech just needs to give some laptops to people to code and voila, you are generating tons of money. While, here we have so many overheads, plants, tools, equipment, supply chain, etc. The margin is like 10% on a good year. While apple is like 40%. That is why aerospace companies dont have money.
This is true except the hardware jobs at tech companies still pay crazy money even though there is a lot of capital equipment and manufacturing resources required
Are you a UX designer or Mechanical Engineering Designer ?
mechanical engineer, design and analysis with experience primarily in thermal fluids (propulsion)
PB2, PB1 (entry level, recent college graduates, less experience) I make 168K at GE as an SPB3 (TPM) - also in the midwest - if this role was in the bay area, I would need over $550K TC
I was a senior staff data viz engineer (BIE in most other companies) and this was very similar to my comp. ~160 + 15% bonus as SPB. Never found out my level but I’m assuming 2 or 3 Edit: this was in Midwest, left bc pandemic and their tech is dogshit
You were probably 3, but GE has been increasing pay raises, brought back air bonuses for those LPB folks, and off cycle pay bumps to reduce disparities, more promotions DTLPs are getting 90, 95, 100K due to supply & demand issues. But I'm leaving for Microsoft next month. Ironically, my base pay here is 140K, but they gave me 275K RSUs, 15K sign on. And I got down leveled
If UX then GE is about right .. for ME not so much
You only have 2 yoe. I had 5 at NASA and was only at 86k before leaving. It’s not apple.
2 yr and 85k seems reasonable for manufacturing/auto/aerospace. But 5 and 86k is just not right man. More like 100 to 120k imho. As an ex ni engineer, i know ni pay is shit, but damn...
Given you’re around a IC2, in the Midwest the median is around 84k so them saying 15k less than your range is about right since most companies won’t put you at the market reference in this field.
Also this position is PB1 which I was told is on the upper half of the professional band…why are salaries still so low in this industry?
PB1 is more than likely level one, they might have been meaning the pay would be in the upper half of the band for a pb1 which it is. As for why pay sucks in this industry idk man it just does.