SAP interviewed me for a program manager position then tried to make me an offer for a senior project manager position @$150K. I asked for $175k to match current comp and they came back today saying they were walking away. The hiring manager tried to tell me not to get hung up on title. Lol If it's not a big deal, why are you changing it then?
Yoe and location?
10 yrs. Dallas
Would you have been happy at this new place making 150k? That’s all you need to ask yourself. This is always the risk you take when negotiating. Either party can decide to walk away. It is fine as you had established 175k as the minimum you want from a role and this was more than what the company could afford. In a way it is good to know this and end it here.
No I would not have been. Because I would have been doing the work of more than $175k. The bottom line is that there was a lot of gas lighting in the process and I think in the end, it all worked out how it should have worked out. All good. Sometimes, things happen for a reason. Money is very important to me. It is a factor in why I work. :)
Yup - better to know about toxic team/company/people before you sign the offer.
Typical SAP.
Anyone telling you to not get hung up on title is about to lowball/screw you over.
Titles absolutely do NOT matter. Companies make up titles all the time. You think a VP at Wells Fargo is going to get a VP role at Google ?? Lol
Titles absolutely matter. Not because a VP at Google is the same as a VP at some small startup, but because the title tells people inside and outside what your relative position in that company is/was. It’s a million times easier to apply for a Director role if you already have Director as a title than it is to go from Coordinator to Director even if your responsibilities are equivalent.