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USA. I'm in greater seattle area, WA. Company office is in Waltham, MA. I got hired in Intralinks Inc. in February 2021. Throughout the hiring process, the recruiter had told me that this is a permanently remote position and I won't have to relocate to Waltham; unless I get promoted to a manager role down the line OR unless I want to relocate there voluntarily. They offered me a little lower compensation than what I was asking for; but I accepted it because - * Working remotely from WA, I wouldn't have to pay MA state income taxes. * I wounldn't have to spend money and time on relocating to MA. * Cost of living is lower here in WA, compared to MA. The offer letter I received didn't mention the work location or whether this is remote job. It also didn't mention anything about greencard application, which we had discussed during interviews. The recruiter said they have a standard offer letter template, and they don't deviate from that. I said alright. That might've been my biggest mistake. Now, after I started working at the company, the team manager then said "I heard you were saying it is a permanent remote job. It is not. You will have to relocate to Waltham once covid lockdown eases and offices open up." I looped in the recruiter in the conversation and he then outright lied. He says "I had never told you this is permanently remote. In fact, I had clearly told you this is remote only temporarily." Lying with a straight face, without any shame!!!! I didn't have any written proof that the recruiter had told me "permanent remote". Except for this - When they were applying for my H1B visa transfer, I had noticed that the "worksite" is mentioned as "Waltham". I told them "hey, I'm hired for a remote job and will be working from my home in WA." They then had corrected the entry and my LCA and Visa transfer was carried out with worksite mentioned as WA. This is the only mail where "remote" is mentioned. It's not a smoking gun proof though. Anyway.... I told the recruiter and manager that this "bait n switch" is not a good way of onboarding a new employee. If their requirement has changed recently or if there was a miscommunication between them, they should come clean and we all can discuss further plans. I was ready to adjust. They didn't reply to me for a week, and then today the manager calls n tells me that I'm being let go for "violating code of ethics!!" Their recruiter lied to me and then they are accusing me of violating ethics! So, because of their evil bait n switch tactics, I'm now out of job in the middle of a pandemic. And being on an H1B visa, I have to find a new job within 2 months or else leave the country. Knowing the current market in this pandemic situation, finding a new job so soon is very difficult. On top of that, finding a company that will sponsor visa is near impossible. Intralinks essentially ruined my life. p.s. - in the exit letter, they have NOT mentioned the reason for termination. Should I insist that they write down a clear reason for termination, and should I go into further argument if they keep insisting on "violated code of ethics"? #layoff #BaitAndSwitch #JobSearch
Dude tough luck I’m sorry
Were things going your way before you brought up permanent WFH? Could it be that they did not see you as a good fit for the role/team?
16th Feb was my first day on the job. Today's just the 4th week since joining. So far, it's only been training mostly. I did deliver two automation tasks in the meantime. I was ready to discuss relocation. But they didn't like that I called out their "bait n switch" scheme.
Many MAsshole managers in MA. They think they are always right, even when they aren’t. You dodged a bullet. Stay in WA. Tap your network at your previous company.
Many companies will go out of their way to accommodate valuable employees. Maybe it's just their way of URAing you out?
Moral of the story: never believe anything recruiters say.
Yep. From now on, I will insist on everything being given to me in writing.
Having everything in writing is the gold standard for any business transaction. When someone refuses to put it in writing there's usually a self serving reason. That's one reason why recruiters prefer to do almost everything on the phone. That being said sometime people simply can't put something in writing because it's based on best efforts and you have to go on trust.
You will get job don't worry. But yes there should be written confirmations for such thing or else there's no way to prove them. Or maybe record phone calls? 🤔
In many states you could go to jail for recording phone calls. Never do this unless you know for certain that all parties are in single-party consent states.
A new job within 2 months, and a job where the company files for my H1B sponsorship - that's a tall ask. Last time it had taken me almost an entire year to find one.
Should have got on I90 and drove east
Tough luck. It is going to be really hard arguing with them without having anything written down. And you end up wasting your time instead of preparing your interviews if you go down that route. You should have probably stalled your move and found another job in the meantime. Lesson for the future. Just focus on your job search. You will find something. Good Luck !
I feel so bad reading this. I am sure you worked hard for getting this job and you really wanted to give your best. But this unfortunate event happened and now you have got to go back to the searching! But keep this lesson with you and moving forward always get your terms cleared with both hiring manager and hr You will find something better soon! All the best!
This job was so hard earned! I prepared n prepapred, day in day out, and gave interviews after interviews. And finally landed this. Left my 11 year long job for this. And this is what they did.
If you have prepared so much, why did you join such a bottom tier company? I know that company, it has horrible talent and culture. What they did isn’t surprising, but you joining them with such a preparation is.
Fighting with employers while on h1b. good luck
I didn't wanna succumb to the "I'm on H1B, so I'm your slave" culture. I did adjust to their demand and was open to discussing relocation. But they apparently wanted unquestioned obedience.
Seems the recruiter made a mistake and needed to cover his ass. However, recruiters don't make company policies and have no leverage to influence it. It's hard to leverage a recruiter's promise even in writing. Many recruiters promise you will be promoted quickly but if this was in writing do you think the company would honor it ? Given your precarious situation with H1B it would have been prudent to push gently back to the manager carefully while buying time to interview if needed. You also have to consider the fact that you are new and have zero leverage with the company. With the potential headache you've given the manager the easier path was for him to just continue recruiting a new candidate. Every action taken here - recruiter lying to save his ass, manager going with another candidate - is very rational and could have been predicted.
Did the recruiter say in writing it’s remote?
No, it's not there in writing. The offer letter I received didn't mention the work location or whether this is remote job. The recruiter said they have a standard offer letter template, and they don't deviate from that. I said alright. That was my biggest mistake.
Even if they have a standard offer letter, an email stating that it is a remote job would have been good. Rule #1 - Don’t ever trust the company to do the right thing Rule #2 - Think through the consequences of anything you say. IMO, you were too aggressive and essentially giving them an ultimatum before you even started. You should have just accepted the offer, acted like you were super excited, and respectfully tried to get them to allow for it to be permanent remote. If they didn’t change their mind, you could have used Covid as an excuse to not transfer until you found another job.