CompensationDec 29, 2017
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Uber & Softbank Deal Lower Uber Valuation?

Softbank bought 15% of Uber stocks with a 30% discount off on its 68 billion valuation. Will this lower Uber's valuation? My friend is joining Uber soon, but a 30% drop in her RSU is definitely something that worries her. Should she ask for stocks before her starts?

Uber Mf68vo6q Dec 29, 2017

They also additionally invested $1b at 68b valuation. As a result, technically the valuation has not changed. On the other hand your friend is always free to ask.

Yelp udvshd OP Dec 29, 2017

Thanks for the information. She just declined other offers for Uber but the deal made her feel she was stupid. I will suggest her to talk to her manager. I heard that Uber has a hiring committed now?

Apple Bnhjk56 Dec 29, 2017

Again with the friend

Snapchat bighaircut Dec 29, 2017

Softbank took advantage of FUD and employees need for liquidity, got a smokin deal and employees got hosed

Yelp udvshd OP Dec 29, 2017

Yeah that is what we think. The compensation package shrinks a lot.

Uber Rqwx5o Dec 29, 2017

Yep. In an open market, SoftBank would never be able to get such a good deal. What was your friend's offer?

Uber TeamJedi Dec 29, 2017

Does not lower valuation. It was a tender offer. Means employees could cash out at a lower price instead of waiting for IPO. Your friend will be happy with 7k of Rsu.

Uber Uberness Dec 29, 2017

Does your friend work at yelp šŸ˜œ. The valuation had not changed. The discount was on a secondary sale not from the company and Softbanks direct investment will be at 68b. That said Uber is a private company so until it goes public no one knows the valuation for sure despite any venture investment. This is the simplest way I can put it I think.

Uber IGWY68 Dec 30, 2017

7k RSU for Eng 2?

Uber JSPM Dec 30, 2017

No harm in negotiating an offer. SoftBank is placing a big bet on Uber by buying in "bulk". A bulk discount in a closed market or when dealing directly with the seller is not unheard of. We will know Uber's real valuation when it goes IPO to an open market where there are multiple buyers. Until then as an outsider you can guess it's current valuation is between $48B and $70B. Insiders with knowledge of it's opportunities and risk, will evaluate it at $70B or closer.

Uber TPSReport Dec 30, 2017

If your friend already accepted the offer, there is no recourse. If your friend is considering a counter offer, Iā€™d suggest not basing the reasoning on ā€œthis deal thatā€™s been in the news for months, but just got executed.ā€ Double-guessing oneself isnā€™t a great way to start a job. If 7k rsuā€™s felt fair before, itā€™s fair now. Weā€™re relatively late stage at this point, literally preparing for the IPO, relatively little risk value conveyed in the grants. But 7k rsuā€™s is still nothing to sneeze at. Softbank expects a substantial return on investment by IPO. Take the sale price, multiply it by 7000 divided by 4 (years), then guess a multiplier you think Softbank is expecting to be reasonable. Is that a nice annual stock comp?