Loose or missing bolts on max jet?

About airlines that said they found several loose bolts, is there any evidence or strong suspicion some others were also missing them but airlines are covering that up because of how bad the optics are of it?

Boeing BoingBoim Feb 6

Don't ask me, my job is to make sure we put the wings on the right side of the plane.

NVIDIA L20 OP Feb 6

😂

Comcast HighFidelt Feb 9

What about the left side???

Medallia Postid Feb 8

There is ample evidence that that plane is going to have issue after issue.

Meta B3G8J Feb 8

The NYT had an article today saying they basically forgot to latch the plug during a rivet repair. The plug is really a door with spring assisted closing that has no automatic latch. Instead it uses bolts. So as far as anyone could tell the door was closed but it was missing the bolts that keep it latched permanently. That means two issues: 1. There was no programmatic control to ensure re bolting after opening. This is a significant issue because many safety critical systems rely on procedures being opened and closed with quality checks, like a pull request review. This is where everyone should be worried. 2. The design of the plug itself is fine mechanically, but the human factors were not properly considered. The plug should not rest in the closed position without being at least partially latched. This was a cost cutting design choice.

Medallia Postid Feb 9

Which is the story of this entire plane. Why have two AoA sensors when we can have one - cheaper and then we don’t have to make software choose between them. Couldn’t possibly ask pilots to train properly on the plane as that would be too expensive, let’s just make black box software that overrides them and not tell them about it.

NVIDIA L20 OP Feb 9

Yeah good points. The single AoA sensor with the power to crash the plane is the most extreme incompetence of it all IMO. The most amazing thing after all this is that more people haven't died. Boeing is running on luck it seems.