Just accepting some interviewers want to fail you?
I looked back at the Roblox interview a few years ago, and remember the lady who was a Senior Software Engineer. I remember she merely said two sentences and wanted me to do something in the interview. When I asked her a question to clarify the requirement, she already became impatient and giving some temper. All the while, she had a stern face, as if candidates were her enemy or had some family feud. Then later on, the VP interviewed me, asked me a question, and I wrote the code, and it worked perfectly. And then he asked me a second question, which was a tough question, and I gave an answer that worked. He asked me, "Can you do better. What is the most optimal answer (that took us a couple of weeks to find out, now say it right here in the remaining 5 minutes)"... the typical question. I gave some possibilities in that 5 minutes. So I gave all working answers to their interview questions. I worked at FAANG even. I graduated from a top-tier university in CS too. Then 3, 4 days later, I got a "no offer". Now that they IPO'ed with a $35 billion market cap. I looked at the Linkedin profiles of the senior software engineer (which is in the email from the recruiter): she went to a 4th tier school, majoring in "Internet engineering" or something like that. And then after that, she worked for some really crappy companies. The VP, also went to some crappy school. His major was music. And the lady software engineer, after 4 more years, she was able to become a Principal Software Engineer. But I understand why: if I or other top-tier engineers went in, she is going to look third-rated. Why would she want to have some one come into her company so that she will look third-rated, or that she can be laid off when they have to lay people off. She might even withhold all the information she knew, just so that other people perform worse than her. So they became rich from the IPO, probably at least between $10 - 20 millions. I guess craps just happen all the time. P.S. There are some people that disregarded the interviewer being impatient the moment I asked the first question to clarify the interview question requirement, but instead turn the road to immediately assume that I must be unfriendly. It is pretty simple: people nowadays don't talk by reason -- they talk by their position or stance. For people who went to a 4th rated school, they are going to defend people who went to a 4th rate school, as simple as that. Why overlook the attitude of the interviewer not even wanting you to ask a question to clarify the requirement? People always say, don't rush into coding, but instead, ask some clarifying questions. So if the interviewer does not even want you to ask any clarifying question, doesn't that mean anything? No, the people defending her don't even want to think about it. #swe #politics #interview
Do you still work at cisco ? If you do you dont get to call other people crappy.
how great is Microsoft really. There are good engineers in Cisco and good engineers in Microsoft, I assume. This is what I called I am a team player and people have a pretty crappy attitude. If you don't have Azure as a cash cow which follows the business model of AWS, you probably is still swimming in a stock price of $25 to $29 and I bet your attitude won't be like what you have. Have money and become arrogant? That's real nice.
@mandarponk you got absolutely destroyed by Cisco
OP how can you define you are more friendly? Is this a know it all syndrome I detect ?
At least I seek to cooperate. I seek to write good code, share information, be honest. Are those bad qualities?
Also pointing out that your post - you blame others for not choosing you and they are rich now. You are judging their education. I’m curious whose next in determination to succeed on education - politicians/ bitcoiners etc
Your thoughts and judgments speak otherwise
I mentioned a story of something unfair. You automatically assume I was not friendly in the interview and assume I am biased. I guess that says a lot. You don't even seem to look at or talk about: I asked the first question to clarify the requirement and she was already impatient. But you instead take the route to assume that I am unfriendly?
Just curious, are you Indian?
It may not be the right thing to judge interviewers on their background. There are plenty of folks who kick ass with a highly mediocre background. But I totally agree with you that many interviewers are total douches, out of touch with how to make a candidate feel comfortable, or just have an air of superiority complex due to the position of power they hold when they interview someone.
I disagree. If the company’s HR is strong the candidate will never have this experience
you know, companies judge us all the time. Did he work at some spectacular companies? But was he a contractor or FTE? Why was he a contractor? Why did he leave after 1 year? Why did he work in the industry for 12 years and he is not at least a manager or director? Why was there a one month gap between his two jobs? Why is he changing jobs? Could he be fired? And we should be obedient dog or sheep to "not judge" other people based on background?
Why are you judging based on school and major? Yes some people just won’t like you, and no, life isn’t fair - but be the change you want to see.
My final 2 cents here - OP believes being a hard worker and writing good code qualities makes himself a great candidate. Maybe for the role they are in but not in another company another role. I disagree with OP based on judging interviewer education and the assumed reason they didn’t get selected. And then blaming other companies as well like Microsoft n Google. If you are the interviewer who knows this about the candidate will you select them?
Op seems like one of the people that only function normally when they are approved of. Looks like nice guys when you agree with him, but when they got different opinions they instantly retaliate, and never be able to see their own problems. The fact that he hold grudges against the interviewers, looking for her resume to find if her background is inferior is uncommon, but he didn’t seem to notice.
that's total BS, GCtD54 Especially true in an interview, you know how they give you a tough question out of no where. If they say one possible angle I didn't think about, I only have awe and respect for them, extremely far from what you said, "they say one opinion different from mine and I instantly retaliate". You seem to assume a lot about me, but for that interviewer who became impatient on my first question to clarify the problem, as non-existent.
Do you feel entitled to these 10-20 millions because your parents put you in the right school?
One sided story. How was your attitude in the interview? I take interviews often and see first hand how many times candidates just cut you off mid way while speaking. Maybe this lady didn’t know how to react. And if they became rich - they were not eating chocolates in bed , they were working.
I can tell you, I am a few times more friendly than they were. You know how it is you are quite cool and friendly, thinking you are a team player, enter the company, and the people working there all had a competitor to you or "why should we tell you what we know" look.