Amazon SDE L6, 12 yoe, current TC 450K about to get an offer at Apple (no numbers yet). Levels.fyi shows Apple ICT4 and ICT5 overlapping with L6. What’s the right leveling? Update: https://www.teamblind.com/us/s/6sDU4i0v
How long did they take to provide feedback?
Honestly this depends. A tenured sde3 (think 3+ years at role) at Amazon maps to a ic5/l6/e6 at apple, Google, meta respectively. This is mostly because of the scope and role of a tenured sde3. Based on your TC it seems like you are mid band, and likely a newer sde3? If so, ic4 might not be bad as long as you get one of their upperband offers.
I have been an SDE3 for 4 years. Our team is very stingy in handing out anything beyond meets. Other than that, the team is great, all the way to the Sr. Director and I like the project I’m working on. Comp has certainly been mid band and hence I’ve been looking. For some reason, ICT4 feels like a level down rather than lateral. Plus the bands for ICT4 on levels.fyi look lower than my current comp at Amazon.
I wouldn't switch for ict4 in that case tbh, even if you get a higher TC somehow. In my observation the senior roles at other faangs map to a tenured sde2 or new sde3 at Amazon and are a major downgrade if you are a high functioning sde3. Goodluck, hope you get an ic5 offer.
I always use the “New Offer” checkbox for this type of question. It’s very helpful, and by the looks of it you’d likely be ICT5. However, given the Comp at ICT5, I wonder if it would be worth the move or not? If you’re happy with your current team and maybe could stick it out a little longer? Idk, just food for thought I guess.
Thanks, I will remember to use it next time. Your suggestion to see if it is worth the effort of switching is something I have been considering as well.
If this were for a HWT position, ICT4 for sure. For SWE, not sure.
This is for SWE.
If you are close to L7 at Amazon you should try to ICT5. I have regularly interviewed and hired Amazon L6 for ICT4 though.
My manager at Amazon has been supportive of my promotion, but mostly in discussions stage. I’ve been told I’m close to an L7 because the projects I’ve led and deployed have org wide impact.
@OP what was your final offer?
Please share your final offer
New post with offer details: "Evaluate my Apple Offer" https://www.teamblind.com/us/s/6sDU4i0v
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