Amazon -> Adobe

Amazon Odosmsk
Oct 16, 2018 17 Comments

L7 in HR at the moment and considering moving from Amazon to Adobe...is this a good or bad move from a work/life balance perspective, comp (TC is currently 300)? work in corporate now vs. would be remote being in Seattle.

Don’t know much about their culture, etc and am looking for tips.

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  • Adobe creative*
    Adobe is an awesome company specially when it comes to work life balance. There are no counted hours at office, flexible Work from home policy, two shutdowns, paid maternity and paternity, 1 month subbatical after every 5 year spawn at Adobe, unlimited paid time off
    Oct 17, 20185
    • Amazon Odosmsk
      OP
      That’s great. What are some of the other notable perks? How is the pay structure broken down? Any info on the different locations?
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Adobe creative*
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Amazon Odosmsk
      OP
      This is great. Is it true that most perf bonuses are 5% for the lower levels and 10-20% for management and senior levels? Half on company, half on individual performance? Those percentages seem low comparative to the rest of the industry. Also heard typically no sign on or minimal at best
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Adobe creative*
      I am not sure about the percentage for management and senior level as I am not there but 5% for everyone else is true and yes that's way below industry average and as an HR person you know better about how to reduce compensation and say we've better WLB to compensate 😈
      Oct 18, 2018
    • Amazon Odosmsk
      OP
      Hate to break it to you but HR folks like money too as well as wlb. We don’t make comp structures, that would be comp teams. Trust me, this is an issue at Amazon too.
      Oct 18, 2018
  • Adobe / EngpFYF55
    I have never been in Amazon in my career so I do not know how bad Amazon is but I’m pretty sure you will love here in work/life balance perspective
    Oct 17, 20182
    • EA / EngGimmemorem
      Can I ask you your hours of work, yoe, how long youve been @ adobe, and TC? Thanks?
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Adobe / EngpFYF55
      I’ve been here about 6month now 3 yoe tc about 120 Utah location. I usually get in around 9 and leave before 5 like 4:30ish
      Oct 17, 2018
  • Bloomberg iVX372
    How do you feel about being a sociopath?

    Oh, I almost forgot. Sociopaths don't have feelings.
    Oct 16, 20182
    • Amazon Odosmsk
      OP
      Says the person who works at Bloomberg. Exhibit A: Sociopathic tendency #1 from yours truly Mr. Bloomberg himself...

      "There’s no one more qualified to help us and our customers navigate changing global markets." - @MikeBloomberg

      Notice that ‘US’ comes before ‘customers’. Posted on twitter only yesterday, it would appear you’re surrounded by sociopaths using your definition. Troll, GTFO!
      Oct 16, 2018
    • Bloomberg iVX372
      Any corporation puts itself before its customers. Example: if customer A will leave the platform and serving customer A's unique demands costs more than the revenue they add, any profitable corporation with other customers would be willing to lose customer A. This is not a sociopathic tendency, but a necessity to avoid bankruptcy.

      Mike Bloomberg donates 87% of Bloomberg LP's annual profits to charity. We have a company program that donates $5,000 to charity for every 25 hours of volunteer time by an employee on behalf of various nonprofit social causes. Tell me about another company or CEO that does that. The only reason Bezos is wealthier than the Google founders is that he takes all of Amazon's stock and compensation for himself and treats his employees as expendable, to the point that he forces their attrition.

      How do you feel about supporting your company's policies of firing employees unjustly, and its culture of forced attrition that puts its employees at the brink of suicide? Like any highly competent HR person, you appear to lack the critical thinking skills and/or courage to see through company Kool Aid. In this case, you fail to see the exceptions to any company's "customer first" mentality.

      BTW props for liking your own comment.
      Oct 17, 2018
  • Visa 🧐🤫q
    YOE? It will be a good move assuming better work life balance but I’m not sure how crazy it can get in HR!! I must say you are making some $$$ at Amazon in HR world!! All the best!
    Oct 16, 20181
  • EA / EngWeekendget
    Heard Adobe has a great culture— they have one week off in summer and winter each so total of two on top of other usual public holidays.
    Btw youre not an swe at Amazon and getting paid like 300? Wow that’s quite a lot.
    Oct 16, 20181
    • Amazon Odosmsk
      OP
      Get up high enough in HR you get paid well. Compared to some other tech companies, it’s less.
      Oct 16, 2018
  • Adobe AdobedobA
    Money will likely be less, but as others have said, the culture and wlb at Adobe is hard to beat. Being “remote” may be tough. Are you going to work out of the Seattle office? Many of the people who I know in that office feel like there is a career ceiling and there’s a lot of travel to the Bay Area for those at higher levels.
    Oct 31, 20180

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