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Facebook / Eng Omg
Jun 10 17 Comments

Is it common for amazon to give you a low ball and make it looks super high?

3rd and 4th yr tc are 90k less than 1yr. Recruiter spent 30min emphasizing only 1yr compensation. Amazon expect their hires know how to calculate compensation, right?

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  • CVS Health Canada🇨🇦
    Your RSUs cover up 3rd and 4th year, if you stay that long in company 🙄
    Jun 10 2
    • Facebook / Eng Omg
      OP
      No, they don’t, that’s why I got a drop on tc after first 2yrs. Even the second year I got less sign on
      Jun 10
    • Amazon / Eng
      SDE.to.SDM

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      Yes they do.

      >Amazon expect their hires know how to calculate compensation, right?

      RSU have 5/15/40/40 breakdown. Can you calculate your correct compensation for year 3/4 now?
      Jun 10
  • Amazon / Eng Wxfhs32
    Less with your RSUs? That is very unusual
    Jun 10 1
    • Facebook / Eng Omg
      OP
      To make up for 90k/yr and given I am joining at the middle of the yr, i need to get a refresh of 240 per yr. is it common to get this at amazon!
      Jun 10
  • Amazon / Mgmt Free WiFi
    Amazon expects 15% stock growth each year. If you factor that growth in is it still a decrease in the 3rd and 4th year?
    Jun 10 4
    • Facebook / Eng Omg
      OP
      Oh my, you are right. Is this a well accepted concept in Amazon. If so, this mean the recruiter has to follow, and there’s little chance of adjustment?

      This is uncommon, first time I hear of this theory
      Jun 10
    • Amazon / Mgmt Free WiFi
      Yeah, that's how they project the RSU refreshers. I've been here 8 year's and it's been at least a 15% growth in stock price each year, but who knows if it will last
      Jun 10
    • Amazon / Eng
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      Recruiter should have given you the first four years comp based on the projected stock price. Do you have something in that email?
      Jun 10
    • Facebook / Eng Omg
      OP
      Recruiter didn’t dare
      Jun 11
  • Amazon caf2019
    Amazon calculates a default growth rate for stock. In my last 7 years it has beaten that rate. Not sure about how long this will last. So the difference is likely that you didn’t apply that growth rate. Also by year 2 you will get more stock so overall comp does go up
    Jun 10 4
    • Facebook / Eng Omg
      OP
      But this is way too complicated to calculate, staying at my current company, my tc will go up yr by yr too
      Jun 10
    • Amazon caf2019
      I think the fb comp is way more straight forward .. i don’t disagree. I was at fb btw so I get it. At Amazon you are just betting on big stock growth and comp goes high.
      Jun 10
    • Facebook / Eng Omg
      OP
      How do you like your move?

      I was surprised when I calculated the number, I thought I did the math wrong. How come a company present an offer with decreasing tc in the next 4yr. It is definitely uncommon
      Jun 10
    • Amazon caf2019
      I think it’s a very different company. If you like being more autonomous with much less thrash (which I think means more learning) then I recommend it
      Jun 11
  • Bayer / IT Genie_22
    Give the offer details and we would be able to help you more. With base, signon y1/y2, and RSU number we would be able to calculate each year TC
    7d 0
  • Amazon KoUq26
    You should factor in that no other company builds in stock growth as part of their explicit compensation plan. Also factor in that refreshers are almost certainly nonexistent until your 5th year due to the total compensation target model approach to internal comp.

    Check out this post! "How “refreshers” work at Amazon (Compensation)"
    https://us.teamblind.com/s/pVJmPiL4
    Jun 11 0

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