Apple Exploding Offer v.s Google Return offer for New Grad

Google o_Ohmmm
Aug 26 22 Comments

I got an Apple new grad offer for a team under Siri. Recruiter is only giving me a week to consider b/c their HC is full & this is the last spot. I like the team & the interviewers but I'm also waiting on a Google return offer (just finished an internship with google), and have onsite scheduled with Jane Street end of this week. Any advice on how to proceed? Or any insights on the benefits, pay, and culture of Apple v.s. Google v.s. Jane Street?

Apple Offer:
135k base
150k RSU over 4years
25k sign-on
10k Relocation

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TOP 22 Comments
  • Intuit 7J
    One week is not an exploding offer. It’s an offer that expires that day.
    Aug 26 0
  • Google deans
    Jane street will probably pay you more if you get it btw. Fintech tends to be higher in general (though you'll probably have to work longer hours). As a new grad I'd recommend focusing on which company you think you'll grow more. The skills you acquire now will be far more important in the long run than 25k/year at starting.
    Aug 26 3
    • Jane Street Capital / Eng csyibl
      25k/year? Our new grad offers beat that by at least 50k-75k.
      Aug 27
    • Google o_Ohmmm
      OP
      Would you mind sharing what the new grad offer for SWE at JS is like?
      Aug 27
    • Jane Street Capital / Eng csyibl
      175 base + 50k-75k bonus. There's a signing bonus too, maybe 50k? That's for people starting this year, though. I think it'll be higher for people starting next year, as you'd presumably be.
      Aug 27
  • Cisco sidwj$
    I would tell the recruiter that you’re sad that you won’t be able to work for them because of a couple of weeks timing issue, but thanks for the opportunity.
    If they let you walk away over a few weeks they probably aren’t worth working for.
    Aug 26 1
    • New grad is competitive. They have tons of people in waitlist. If you dont take it, others will.
      Aug 26
  • Qualcomm MqFw02
    Accept apple for now, if Google makes an offer take it... Google is better than apple ( mobile and related services company)
    Aug 26 0
  • Accept apple then wait for google, interview around.

    Those numbers are ok but you can negotiate https://leetcode.com/discuss/compensation/298397/Apple-New-grad-ICT-3-offer
    Aug 26 0
  • Apple s432
    Accept Apple but wait for JS (granted you do well in their interviews). Unless you really want to go to Google and/or they give you a better offer.

    Siri org at Apple compensates well
    Aug 26 6
    • Apple s432
      Not too sure, but most likely will be blacklisted and no negotiations after accepting.

      Depends on what you want. If you enjoyed your internship and want to go back, then it seems like you’ve already made up your mind, given G gives you an offer.

      Siri sucks compared to the other AI assistants out there, but that means more opportunity for growth for you as an engineer and more impact even as a junior engineer (and also means the company is investing more money into the team).

      If you’re looking for most money, JS is the obvious choice. You’ll make bank there, especially as you progress in your career there. And you get to live in NYC, which is a lot nicer for young professionals (especially males).
      Aug 26
    • Google o_Ohmmm
      OP
      Thank you for the insights!!
      Aug 26
    • Apple / R&D FeOg71
      Do NOT accept and turn down later.
      Aug 28
    • Google o_Ohmmm
      OP
      Yeah I wasn’t planning on doing so, it’s just hard to decide with the short deadline
      Aug 29
    • Goldman Sachs lc600
      What did you decide?
      Sep 1
  • Google G-*
    I would pick one between Google and Jane Street (of kind)

    Google return offer takes long, up to 60 days, maybe not including team matching. Lol. I guessed you already passed the two conversion interviews?

    Jane Street (of kind) interviews are a little different from high tech ones, but worth trying. Even you don’t make it this time, you can always try other HFT/HF companies or get back to high tech.
    Aug 26 0
  • Microsoft ogoz
    Email Google and Jane Street recruiters, stressing you have deadline and ask for counter offers asap
    Aug 26 0
  • Jane Street Capital JBoC63
    Let your Jane street recruiter know you’re on a time crunch and they should be able to accelerate the process quite a bit
    Sep 1 0
  • Apple qcnwo
    Google numbers? Apple is pretty high.
    Aug 26 0
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  • New duudjj
    This is a good offer for a new grad
    Aug 26 0