Apple ICT5 offer

HPE hskebp
Jul 8 27 Comments

Recently got an offer from Apple, seems low. Any thoughts?

ICT5 HW Engineering
185k base
255k RSU over 4 years
50k sign-on
12 YoE

Current TC is ~$300k (not at HPE anymore)

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TOP 27 Comments
  • Apple MyYO05
    Very average ICT5 offer. Not bad not great.

    What is your YOE?
    Jul 8 2
    • HPE hskebp
      OP
      Added. 12 YoE. The offer seems much lower than others I'm seeing on here and levels.fyi...thoughts on how much room for negotiation there is?
      Jul 8
    • Apple MyYO05
      Levels is biased. Apple doesn’t give huge starting TC but refreshers are arguably one of the best. Your TC will stack overtime.
      Jul 8
  • New / Eng ZuckYou!
    If you’re getting ICT5 with 12 yoe, that’s pretty amazing. The offer is low though, close to ICT4.
    Jul 8 4
    • HPE hskebp
      OP
      They said the interview feedback was really positive. How much do you think I could negotiate?
      Jul 8
    • New / Eng ZuckYou!
      I guess it depends on your options. Do you have a better offer? Are you willing to walk away from this offer? They will sense it and go higher accordingly. You could play hardball in the beginning and state your expectations, 200K-220K base and 400K RSUs. But might be difficult to get. Let them come back with how high they can go.
      Jul 8
    • HPE hskebp
      OP
      I do have an offer at a much higher TC, from a small startup. Willing to walk away if they don’t budge
      Jul 8
    • New / Eng ZuckYou!
      Well then, go for that. Higher TC, and most likely better work. Curious, what space is the startup in, and is it in Bay Area? Do you see a high likelihood of good startup exit?
      Jul 8
  • Apple 🍎⌚️
    Don’t listen to these BSers. This is not an ICT4 offer, it is an ICT5 for sure. And yes, the base is below average, it could be 200-250. RSU is fine. Sign on is average, probably could get a 75 if you push. Are you not going to negotiate? I never accept the first offer.
    Jul 11 1
    • Intel Kitten420
      What do refreshers tend to be for ICT4 vs ICT5 in hardware ?
      Jul 20
  • Cognizant / Data adam3579
    You may want to recheck with the recruiter. This sure looks like an ICT4 offer.
    Jul 8 3
    • Apple VKjg08
      Not even a very good offer for ICT4 swe
      Jul 8
    • HPE hskebp
      OP
      Agreed, but this is for HW org. Do you think it’s in line with ICT4 even for HW?
      Jul 8
    • Lam Research gurubhai
      Yes
      Jul 9
  • Google
    GCoin

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    GCoinmore
    Apple doesn’t reveal levels in offer letter. How do you know it’s ict5?
    Jul 8 3
    • HPE hskebp
      OP
      Asked the recruiter
      Jul 8
    • Google
      GCoin

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      GCoinmore
      There have been cases of recruiters bs’ing the level and since it’s not in writing, then oh well.

      Your base is more ict4 than ict5
      Jul 8
    • HPE hskebp
      OP
      Even for HW? I noticed most of the posts here and levels.fyi are for SWE
      Jul 8
  • Apple Patootiewo
    HW and SW pay equivalent at Apple. Being HW Is not an excuse. Unless you are in something hot in SW like AI/ML
    Jul 9 1
    • Apple Patootiewo
      But yeah that seems lower end for ICT5... I think it depends on where your experience is from. Those that have spent most of their time at Apple with ICT5 is making around 450k average. Do understand that ICT5 is a big range though because it is definitely terminal
      Jul 9
  • Apple dyinE82
    Must be IS&T
    Jul 8 1
    • HPE hskebp
      OP
      HW engineering
      Jul 8
  • Finisar
    NNet🐊

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    NNet🐊more
    Low for ICT5. Could negotiate $300k for RSU and atleast $10k more for sign on
    Jul 8 1
    • HPE hskebp
      OP
      I was thinking that the base is low too. Was expecting at least 220-230
      Jul 8
  • Sony XyZ16
    How HPE is different?
    Jul 20 0
  • Intel Kitten420
    Base seems low, RSU seems low... Are you sure this is not ICT4 ? Recruiter might be BSing.
    Jul 8 0
  • Marvell elkdead
    Following
    Jul 8 0

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