Coming up on the end of my lease and got to thinking about what it would take to afford a decent house. Wife and I make ~350k TC and have around 425k in liquid assets. Looking at houses around 1.2M to 1.5M range in the South Bay. When does it make sense to stop renting and just buy with 20% down? Will the value of houses continue to increase at the same rate?
If you don't know you'll be in the area for 10 years, not worth it. And if you're not married, also not worth it. Edit: Whoa, 240k cash comp per year between you both? This is a bad idea. Don't do it.
Just curious why in case of not married, it would be worth buying?
Why 10 years? I've owned homes for less than that and still walked away with more money.
No one knows if the value will go up or down but you know if you will save in rent or not
Even if we experiences another 2008 crash, 30% drop would only be under $1200/ month over the 30 year period if the price stays the same for that level. And I personally believe the house price will going up over the long run. So if you are able to buy and your rent is over $1200/ month, I had say go for it. The risk is pretty low here 🙂
If this is going to be your primary residence, I would base the decision on the following factors: 1. Buy vs rent calculation - depending on your current rental cost and the tax benefit that you would get from the mortgage. 2. How long you plan to stay there. 3. If you have kids whether you want to send them to public vs private school. Generally, the rental and house prices in good school districts will be higher. 4. Your job security relative to overall market. Overall, Bay Area is a strange and resilient market and very difficult to time. Given the slew of IPOs no one knows where the market will go. The other thing to consider is that you would have your 425k invested somewhere and if the market turns, your investment will do down as well. By purchasing, you will be moving from one asset class (stocks) which is at all time high to another (housing) which is also at all time high. Good luck!
One thing I want to add is: Investment in house almost always has higher leverage compared to investing in stocks, thus in a not-so-upward market, you could see your asset burning much faster.
Good advice from Mentor.
Data point for you - if it matters :) My wife and I have very similar numbers. Married with 1 child with 1 on the way. Comp is 250k/yr in cash. 340K/TC. 500k net worth. Looking to buy lt 1.05M (5600/mo) in SoCal. For this price we could have a 4/3 2600sqft 2 yr old home in a 9/10 school district. Currently rent a 1960s, 1200sqft beat-up 3 bed for $3000/mo.
US Bank will finance anything
Didn’t you notice the whole market is going down and recession is on the way ?
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You want your house to be 3-6x your combined income and less than 20years * yearly rent. If this isn't the case, it's not a good investment but that doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't buy.
Net or gross income?
Nobody knows. Very few markets still go up in a recession which is impending. How much of that is your cold hard salary?
Combined salary is 240k in cash
I personally wouldn’t buy based on your cash reserves and because there’s a great probability that the housing prices will go down. You’re going to eat up half your cash reserves on a downpayment alone and I personally wouldn’t do that. I’d save up until I had at least $600K. All it takes is one injury or job loss and the balance can get eaten up quickly. Doesn’t sound like you’re married either, so you’d be shouldering all of that solo.