Cisco, are the layoffs that bad?
I received an offer from a Cisco. Is it worth joining with all the layoffs being had? Someone told me the layoffs are going very seasons. >4 layoffs a year.
If you are on a visa then dont. It impacts your perm filing etc its biannual .
TC or GTFO
On what basis layoffs are happening? Which are the most affected BU?
business restructuring. acquire a company and layoff the older one
The layoffs have been ongoing since early 2000s. They aren’t really that bad. The real problem with cisco is that it’s a complete shit show internally full of mediocre people who can’t do better. It’s where your skills go to die and where it’s a given that you should do ten PM calls with some team in India and 8AM meetings the next day. Also infinite blatant nepotism.
Sounds like Intel. Kinda sad. Cisco was one of the "FANG" companies back in the late 90s/early 2000s.
This ^ couldn’t describe any better. I hated the 10 pm til midnight calls to explain the same shit to my team full of contractors in India, only to learn that they will be let go since there is no budget. Then the very next day I was expected to attend meeting at 8 am with teams in Canada. 6 months and I was so done with it that I just left.To top it all the open bias in my BU when it came to promotion and salary was such a disappointment
If the product you will be working on has good future you won't find any stable company than Cisco. Else it can get hard. LR are not too severe and it is based solely on the business direction. So work on a product that will sell.
How is cisco IT doing ?
They did a big purge right before the holidays. So now it’s a shit show as already over worked people are expected to pick up the slack.
^ Terminology clarification: “LR” is what we call layoffs (to give it a “softer” tone—which is of no use tbh). Limited Restructuring. We don’t also say “foo got laid off”, we say “foo got impacted by the recent LR.” Soo politically… very correct :)
Wait... Cisco invented a word for lay-offs?? 😂😂😂
Something like that ;)
Are you fresh graduate? Is your skill good? If it is then dont join. If your skill is mediocre and just want to day to day thing, then welcome
Since Cisco is a big ship, you “can” (can is the keyword here) find exceptionally talented teams, fun projects, and a stable work environment. But the majority of Cisco is mediocre or below. So it depends on the team, your prospective manager If the manager knows her shit (most don’t) then the team will likely be good, and you can feel that in the interviews too. So: choose wisely.
It would be great if guys could share what BU/team does good or above average. It can be a good data point to accept an offer from Cisco 🙂
Insieme and security (bldg 14 and 19) are doing pretty good. Don't join spbu(22, 23) unless you don't have a choice. From what I've heard, dcbu (I think 6) is not good either. Don't have data points on others.
Its an annual festival there. Edit: Make that seasonal.