Data Analyst Doing Engineering Work

Bloomberg Princeton4
Sep 7, 2017 12 Comments

I am a Data Analyst at Bloomberg but I write JavaScript, python, and ruby all day. I am the only one on my time team with these skills. I have taken over a lot of work that would have normally went to engineering team. I know the software engineers are making at least double. How would you guys suggest I make my case for a large salary increase in January?

I am all self taught by taking hours on hours of online classes. I am currently making 60k.

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  • New / Eng MDOy74
    Odd -- I'm a JavaScript engineer earning more than double your income but learning data science due to the career opportunities if I eventually switch. I would say focus on whichever one you enjoy most and then learn everything you can about it. Sounds like you could make a good 50% more for an entry-mid level JavaScript position if you put in the effort. You could also make a lot more as a data scientist if you put in that effort. Do what you enjoy most.
    Sep 7, 2017 1
    • Bloomberg Princeton4
      OP
      Thank you I appreciate the advice!
      Sep 7, 2017
  • Bloomberg Mowgli2.0
    There are three approaches I think you can take here: 1) in your EoY you can argue all the extra added value you brought to the table and make the case for a big increase; 2) you can talk to HR about transferring to ENG and talk with engineers at BBG about making that switch and being ready for it (know that you may not be doing the same work on the other side...); 3) update your resume with all the value add your skills have helped add to BBG and get a competing offer. You can then take that offer or bring it back to Bbg to see if they'll match. I know others who have taken option 3 and BBG then matched or came close.

    In my experience the firm aims to get as much out of you for as absolute little as possible in an almost greedy way. If you do more than what you were hired to do, you will never be appreciated immediately in terms of salary. Ever. But if you convince team leaders and managers of the value you can add to their group, they will fight for you to join their group and usually pay you better. Again, though, the infrastructure is set up to delay paying you anything more right away. The pay structure is designed to reward only long-term moves. In Core, pay increases are delayed by 3-5 months after a role change. The company does invest in us in general. And there is a lot to appreciate. But the company is as sales focused as you can be and claim any semblance of techy perks. If you want to be paid well, you need to do one of two things: 1) simultaneously prove how much monetary value you're personally driving for the firm and the opportunities you have elsewhere if they're not appreciating you, or 2) stay there forever. It's also a company that doesn't typically push you out as long as you're willing to do standard roles and perform in the middle 60%.

    The firm is designed to encourage long term stay and reward loyalty over talent. Also location makes a difference. ADSK makes considerably more than GData at entry level. That's for 2 reasons: 1) being in NYC, and 2) expectation of going into Sales. They love sales. I don't think the firm is ready yet to genuinely appreciate data science/data analytics. They prefer to make business decisions on simple data, and there's still so much they can do with minimal data to improve the business. If you want to be a data scientist/data analyst, I think you're likely best looking at different industries altogether. If you want to be an engineer, BBG is an okay place to start but keep in mind your goals. BBG helps you grow ONLY in relation to your current role. You have to fight for opportunities to grow holistically or you have to spend time outside of work studying/pursuing growth.

    I hope that helps. Message me (if that's even possible on here) if you want to further discuss this.
    Sep 7, 2017 0
  • Eigen / Eng
    chancellor

    Eigen Eng

    PRE
    Nokia
    chancellormore
    Sometimes I wonder what crime have I committed to have a salary below the above mentioned JavaScript developer when I am coding for middleware platform using system C++ Api and Java webservices.
    Sep 7, 2017 3
    • Bloomberg Princeton4
      OP
      Ask for a more completive salary. Nothing will change without action.
      Sep 7, 2017
    • New / Eng MDOy74
      Laziness is a virtue. Lol.
      Sep 7, 2017
    • New / Eng MDOy74
      To be fair, a number of Java developers on my team make a lot more. I'm guessing 30-50% more. But most good JS devs with framework experience can make +/- 20% of my salary in this market.
      Sep 7, 2017
  • Bloomberg vzQP07
    @princeton4 I am in the same boat as you. Global data is capped with salary increases. Trust me I tried everything
    Sep 12, 2018 0
  • Microsoft irma
    make sure your manager knows and become the only guy in the team with product knowledge. Get a better offer and negotiate or leave
    Sep 7, 2017 0
  • Amazon Gazd77
    Each position will have a salary range and it would be a tough sell to get more with same title. Only thing going to help you is changing to engineer role
    Sep 7, 2017 0
  • Bloomberg vzQP07
    I would recommend either transferring to engineering or leaving. You wan’t find a competitive salary in GD
    Sep 12, 2018 0
  • Bloomberg / Eng idFR43
    How long were you at bbg and did you come in through GDTP?
    Sep 7, 2017 0

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