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Do you actually enjoy Software Engineering?

Capital One / Enguncle_rich
5d

Talked to a lot of engineers who are in the profession not because they actually like the work, but because it pays $$$. Wanted to open it up to the community to see where people stand.

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  • Paperless Post AlphaAF
    How the fuck software engineering and doing leetcode for fun fit into one category?
    5d5
    • Capital One / Enguncle_rich
      OP
      Can you truly call yourself a devout engineer if you dont leetcode all day erryday (and enjoy it too)? /s
      5d
    • New / Engcato
      Yeah I’d rather solve real problems
      5d
    • Gusto sudo sudo
      This
      5d
    • Bloomberg / EngTREQSlayer
      Yeah I dont do leet code for fun, but I code my own personal things for fun
      4d
    • eBay / Eng
      mDBW53

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      mDBW53more
      I hate leetcode but love being a SWE.
      4d
  • Microsoft Chippah
    I love it but don’t leetcode
    5d1
    • New / Engcato
      Yeah I selected the first answer but I’ve never once “leet coded”
      5d
  • Collective Health fallenFor
    I really do like software engineering but no I don’t like leetcode
    5d0
  • Missing option: like/love it, but spend enough time doing it at work, so not going to do leetcode as a hobby.
    5d0
  • Facebook Copacabana
    Two hypotheses:

    1. The people who enjoy coding the most are the ones who don't "do leetcode".

    2. OP doesn't enjoy coding very much.
    4d1
    • Capital One / Enguncle_rich
      OP
      I think you’re onto something there @Copacabana 🤔

      I’ll add another hypothesis on there: OP is a shtty survey writer & needs to make better assumptions
      4d
  • Salesforce / EngRedeRocket
    I enjoy the figuring out shit part. The part that I hate that I am currently doing as am writing this comment, its when your code reviewers comment stuff like extra space here or The copyright year is actually 2019. My question is WHAT ABOUT MY CODE PEOPLE. TELL ME SOMETHING USEFUL ABOUT MY CODE.
    4d0
  • Google hEks28
    Solving problems you care about it fun. Dealing with people who don't share your passion starts taking a toll on you over time.
    5d0
  • Vertivco / Eng
    FastPapuan

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    FastPapuanmore
    Yes.

    But SOME people don't appreciate that passion and teamwork and will prevent you from making software
    5d0
  • OnDeck / EngTgAi28
    When you start out it's ok interesting, but at some point, it becomes pretty repetitive. At one point, I felt like I was a modern assembly line worker, only I flip bits. Once in a blue moon you get presented with a real challenge that is totally new and interesting. Overall, I think it's a good job. I wouldn't trade it for finance or law, or other high paying professions. But I do hate that switching jobs involves proving to every employer that you are not a duck but an engineer by spending and entire day solving puzzles. No other profession has this crazy hurdle.
    4d2
    • Collective Health fallenFor
      No other profession as our comp, benefits, and flexibility either.
      4d
    • OnDeck / EngTgAi28
      Lawyers can make between $300 - $1000 per hour. Investment bankers make Bank esp at bonus time.
      4d
  • Microsoft / Engdeadpan
    I love it and work on open source and personal projects quite a bit.

    Have done about an hour of leetcode. Meh.
    4d0
  • Lockheed Martin / EngiEkO37
    You can also do leetcode for fun and leetcode for job prep which is not as much fun.
    4d0
  • Bloomberg / Eng
    10xFortran

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    10xFortranmore
    I love writing software. I hate having to go to work in the morning (regardless of what I am doing). What do I choose?
    4d0
  • Capital One whhdhdhe d
    @uncle_rich most engineers we work with are bad and aren’t representative of good engineers
    5d8
    • Capital One / Enguncle_rich
      OP
      But I thought we’re a real tech company and we only hire top talent. JKJK.

      In all seriousness though, I have met a good number of talented (and passionate) engineers at C1, they just aren’t the norm. And...most of them choose to exit the company at some point.
      5d
    • Capital One whhdhdhe d
      They aren’t the norm and I pray for the day I can join them on the way out some day soon . Tired of working with mediocre people
      5d
    • Capital One 94xz
      Agree with @whh. Of course there are good engineers at C1, but most of the stars will leave at some point for greener pastures. People who will stay are in sweet projects, old school types who love the top-down mentality, or have a lot of pull/prestige/whatever. Unfortunately, I’ve been on 4 projects because of reorgs in 4 years. Only 1 would was good the others were pretty crappy and everyone on teams were trying to get off them. At some point it just becomes easier to switch companies and I am pretty much at that point.
      5d
    • Capital One whhdhdhe d
      I sincerely hope I’m not here for that long; no one likes working on our project , code base is garbage and there’s no absolutely no mentorship or growth . Have a tough time even getting up in the morning most days. The “talent” eventually leaves; anyone who says people here turned down FAANG to work here is disillusioned
      4d
    • Capital One 94xz
      Agree 100%. I came hoping that I could help us to become a “tech company”. I’ve become disenfranchised though. It’s fascinating to her people who disagree and drink the kool-aid. I can’t tell if they just have sweet projects or they just haven’t worked at good engineering companies.
      4d
    • Capital One whhdhdhe d
      Nah people here extremely complacent usually and being around them isn’t a good thing to be especially if you have dreams or even remotely ambitious . Coming from a good cs program I’ve lagged behind my peers at other companies and the gap will continue to grow unless I move ASAP. Throwing around the word machine learning doesn’t make anyone a tech company
      4d
    • Capital One 94xz
      Cool. Good luck to you!
      4d
    • Capital One whhdhdhe d
      Same to you , my words might be harsh but there’s some truth in it imo but what do I know 🤷‍♂️
      3d
  • Microsoft / Engsudo ls
    I love it when it mostly works - I hate it when I’m banging my head against the wall over something stupid.
    5d3
    • Verizon TheRealOJ
      Hmm.. try this next time:

      Code.FuckedUp

      And do something like maybe
      //Code.FuckedUp

      So far so good
      5d
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      VertivcoEng

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      FastPapuanmore
      That code looks like crushed up animal feet. This is shit.
      5d
    • Verizon TheRealOJ
      Must be like looking in a mirror for you.
      5d
  • Microsoft
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    🐙M🐙more
    Sitting at a computer looking at code all day is not my favorite. But I’m not nearly as good at anything else that pays so well
    5d0
  • Apple / EngSarcasmist
    Is leetcode related to Engineering at all?
    2d2
    • OnDeck / EngTgAi28
      It's what you need to be good at to get the good jobs.
      2d
    • Apple / EngSarcasmist
      So it’s not Software Engineering, it’s Social Engineering...
      2d
  • New / EngVxFo66
    I love it but I hate leetcode
    3d0
  • Microsoft / EngDr. 13
    Not that passionate about it. It's ok.
    5d0

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