Do you actually enjoy Software Engineering?

Capital One / Eng uncle_rich
Jan 10 43 Comments

Talked to a lot of engineers who are in the profession not because they actually like the work, but because it pays $$$. Wanted to open it up to the community to see where people stand.

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  • Paperless Post AlphaAF
    How the fuck software engineering and doing leetcode for fun fit into one category?
    Jan 10 5
    • Capital One / Eng uncle_rich
      OP
      Can you truly call yourself a devout engineer if you dont leetcode all day erryday (and enjoy it too)? /s
      Jan 10
    • New / Eng cato
      Yeah I’d rather solve real problems
      Jan 10
    • Gusto sudo sudo
      This
      Jan 11
    • Bloomberg / Eng TREQSlayer
      Yeah I dont do leet code for fun, but I code my own personal things for fun
      Jan 11
    • eBay / Eng
      mDBW53

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      I hate leetcode but love being a SWE.
      Jan 11
  • Microsoft Chippah
    I love it but don’t leetcode
    Jan 10 1
    • New / Eng cato
      Yeah I selected the first answer but I’ve never once “leet coded”
      Jan 10
  • Collective Health fallenFor
    I really do like software engineering but no I don’t like leetcode
    Jan 10 0
  • Missing option: like/love it, but spend enough time doing it at work, so not going to do leetcode as a hobby.
    Jan 10 0
  • Salesforce / Eng RedeRocket
    I enjoy the figuring out shit part. The part that I hate that I am currently doing as am writing this comment, its when your code reviewers comment stuff like extra space here or The copyright year is actually 2019. My question is WHAT ABOUT MY CODE PEOPLE. TELL ME SOMETHING USEFUL ABOUT MY CODE.
    Jan 11 1
    • Bloomberg / Eng
      *** DELETE

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      Nitpicking comments are comments too 🍿
      Jan 21
  • Facebook Copacabana
    Two hypotheses:

    1. The people who enjoy coding the most are the ones who don't "do leetcode".

    2. OP doesn't enjoy coding very much.
    Jan 11 1
    • Capital One / Eng uncle_rich
      OP
      I think you’re onto something there @Copacabana 🤔

      I’ll add another hypothesis on there: OP is a shtty survey writer & needs to make better assumptions
      Jan 11
  • Google hEks28
    Solving problems you care about it fun. Dealing with people who don't share your passion starts taking a toll on you over time.
    Jan 10 0
  • Vertivco / Eng
    FastPapuan

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    FastPapuanmore
    Yes.

    But SOME people don't appreciate that passion and teamwork and will prevent you from making software
    Jan 10 0
  • OnDeck / Eng TgAi28
    When you start out it's ok interesting, but at some point, it becomes pretty repetitive. At one point, I felt like I was a modern assembly line worker, only I flip bits. Once in a blue moon you get presented with a real challenge that is totally new and interesting. Overall, I think it's a good job. I wouldn't trade it for finance or law, or other high paying professions. But I do hate that switching jobs involves proving to every employer that you are not a duck but an engineer by spending and entire day solving puzzles. No other profession has this crazy hurdle.
    Jan 11 2
    • Collective Health fallenFor
      No other profession as our comp, benefits, and flexibility either.
      Jan 11
    • OnDeck / Eng TgAi28
      Lawyers can make between $300 - $1000 per hour. Investment bankers make Bank esp at bonus time.
      Jan 11
  • Microsoft / Eng deadpan
    I love it and work on open source and personal projects quite a bit.

    Have done about an hour of leetcode. Meh.
    Jan 11 0
  • Microsoft / Eng sudo ls
    I love it when it mostly works - I hate it when I’m banging my head against the wall over something stupid.
    Jan 10 3
    • Verizon TheRealOJ
      Hmm.. try this next time:

      Code.FuckedUp

      And do something like maybe
      //Code.FuckedUp

      So far so good
      Jan 10
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      Vertivco Eng

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      That code looks like crushed up animal feet. This is shit.
      Jan 10
    • Verizon TheRealOJ
      Must be like looking in a mirror for you.
      Jan 10
  • Lockheed Martin / Eng iEkO37
    You can also do leetcode for fun and leetcode for job prep which is not as much fun.
    Jan 11 0
  • Bloomberg / Eng
    10xFortran

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    10xFortranmore
    I love writing software. I hate having to go to work in the morning (regardless of what I am doing). What do I choose?
    Jan 11 0
  • Capital One whhdhdhe d
    @uncle_rich most engineers we work with are bad and aren’t representative of good engineers
    Jan 10 9
    • Capital One / Eng uncle_rich
      OP
      But I thought we’re a real tech company and we only hire top talent. JKJK.

      In all seriousness though, I have met a good number of talented (and passionate) engineers at C1, they just aren’t the norm. And...most of them choose to exit the company at some point.
      Jan 10
    • Capital One whhdhdhe d
      They aren’t the norm and I pray for the day I can join them on the way out some day soon . Tired of working with mediocre people
      Jan 10
    • Capital One 94xz
      Agree with @whh. Of course there are good engineers at C1, but most of the stars will leave at some point for greener pastures. People who will stay are in sweet projects, old school types who love the top-down mentality, or have a lot of pull/prestige/whatever. Unfortunately, I’ve been on 4 projects because of reorgs in 4 years. Only 1 would was good the others were pretty crappy and everyone on teams were trying to get off them. At some point it just becomes easier to switch companies and I am pretty much at that point.
      Jan 10
    • Capital One whhdhdhe d
      I sincerely hope I’m not here for that long; no one likes working on our project , code base is garbage and there’s no absolutely no mentorship or growth . Have a tough time even getting up in the morning most days. The “talent” eventually leaves; anyone who says people here turned down FAANG to work here is disillusioned
      Jan 11
    • Capital One 94xz
      Agree 100%. I came hoping that I could help us to become a “tech company”. I’ve become disenfranchised though. It’s fascinating to her people who disagree and drink the kool-aid. I can’t tell if they just have sweet projects or they just haven’t worked at good engineering companies.
      Jan 11
    • Capital One 94xz
      Cool. Good luck to you!
      Jan 11
    • Capital One whhdhdhe d
      Same to you , my words might be harsh but there’s some truth in it imo but what do I know 🤷‍♂️
      Jan 12
    • American Express / Eng lem0n
      This sounds a lot like Amex. Most people here are average or below average.
      Jan 21
    • Capital One woahthere1
      Sorry to hear that , I know how it’s like to be around majority mediocrity
      Jan 21
  • New / Eng VxFo66
    I love it but I hate leetcode
    Jan 12 0
  • Microsoft
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    Sitting at a computer looking at code all day is not my favorite. But I’m not nearly as good at anything else that pays so well
    Jan 10 0
  • Apple / Eng Sarcasmist
    Is leetcode related to Engineering at all?
    Jan 13 3
    • OnDeck / Eng TgAi28
      It's what you need to be good at to get the good jobs.
      Jan 13
    • Apple / Eng Sarcasmist
      So it’s not Software Engineering, it’s Social Engineering...
      Jan 13
    • Facebook Copacabana
      It's a scheme to make money off people who think there's one weird trick to passing a job interview.
      Jan 16
  • Microsoft / Eng Dr. 13
    Not that passionate about it. It's ok.
    Jan 10 0

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