PoliticsJan 25, 2018
AmazonEx-Banker

Do you support affirmative action for blacks and Latinos?

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Compass Pwyu55 Jan 25, 2018

Your poll options are wrong. Affirmative action does not require lower standards. You are making two invalid options the only choices in this shitty poll. You should be better than this.

Compass Pwyu55 Jan 25, 2018

Encourage companies to hire more diverse staff at all levels by providing tax incentives or other benefits. This has been shown to be effective with regard to hiring veterans and could be applied to this as well.

Compass Pwyu55 Jan 25, 2018

Additionally the op is making the assumption that black and Latino candidates hired via affirmative action are automatically inferior. This is false and a bit racist. Any marginalized or disenfranchised group should be assisted out of this marginalization, affirmative action is one tool to help accomplish this.

Dropbox ridethwave Jan 25, 2018

I support affirmative action for marginalized and disadvantaged populations. I don't believe melanin content or languages spoken by themselves qualify someone. Where's my poll answer?

Amazon Ex-Banker OP Jan 25, 2018

How do you define disadvantaged? Historically, almost every group has suffered some sort of discrimination. I do support some preferential treatment for those from low socio-economic background, but that should be for all races. Currently, wealthy blacks get affirmative action while poor whites and Asians don't.

IBM 👁🐝Ⓜ️ Feb 1, 2018

Yeah. If you are a poor Asian you are so screwed

Expedia 🍺 beer Jan 25, 2018

Op clearly does not understand what affirmative action is. There’s no lowering of standards. Your assumption that somehow blacks and Latinos NEED those standards lowered is basically why these minorities are marginalized -people like you assume that they’re inherently somehow bad at their profession. So in a way, you’re the reason why we need affirmative action.

Compass Pwyu55 Jan 25, 2018

Kaolwpq please provide evidence for this statement.

Compass Pwyu55 Jan 25, 2018

With your example you’re excluding the entire reason for affirmative actions existence. Decades of preferential hiring for White candidates over minority candidates. There are numerous studies done both by academia and government studies that show this. Your assumption that hiring of minority and white candidates are equal or even preferential to the minority candidate is false and leaves the rest of your equation inaccurate.

Microsoft seemsfastr Jan 25, 2018

The fact that AA proponents say blacks and Latinos are "marginalized" is a bit insulting. They aren't sheep. If you really believed they were capable of the same achievements as whites you wouldn't be pushing for AA.

Compass Pwyu55 Jan 25, 2018

It isn’t about not being able to achieve the same as whites it’s about encouraging employers and educators to give them the opportunity to showcase their ability. There are decades of evidence showing that minority candidates were marginalized in the acceptance and hiring process. This is an aim to correct this.

Expedia 🍺 beer Jan 25, 2018

It’s about the fact that they’re not hired Despite being capable.

Adobe Yvgtre176 Jan 25, 2018

I support affirmative action for the disadvantaged. Right now, we base it on race but how do we determine socio-economic disadvantage? College doesn’t have enough counselors to do house visit or verify the background of the candidate. So right now they are using the easy way, statistic. Race seems to be the determining factor based on that statistics. I’m Asian too and I am well aware that I have to prepare my son extra hard if he wants to get in to place likeUC Berkeley or Harvard where Asians are held in different standards.

Amazon Ex-Banker OP Jan 25, 2018

AA really fucks over Asians.

Credit Karma Johmy Jan 25, 2018

AA in the UC system gave preference to a bunch of different factors including economic background. I was a white beneficiary of these policies due to my family economic situation. Further, college admissions look at a whole bunch of other non-AA factors. No under qualified person would be admitted through this system, but if there was a hypothetical situation where there was one spot left and two people had more or less the same grades, same SATs, same legacy status, same volunteer or club activities, similar admission essay evaluation... then a black student might be in a better position to be admitted. So why do the people who complain about AA being unfair, not complain that similar factors such as what county you are from, if you are legacy or not, etc are also unfair. The most logical answer must be because they have internalized racist myths from the two parties and media: if a black or Latino guy is successful... he must have “cheated” somehow and doesn’t deserve it.

Intel rofbdbsor7 Feb 16, 2018

I like AA. I dont like that even rich black kids get AA advantages

Salesforce zxPz04 Jan 25, 2018

84% against affirmative action... Wonder what the results would be if this wasn't an anonymous poll.

Credit Karma Johmy Jan 25, 2018

The Yes option was disingenuous, I did not vote “yes” but support AA as a “better than nothing” option. But ideally I’d want to see reparations via massive reinvestment in services, jobs, and schools in poor neighborhoods.

Compass Pwyu55 Jan 25, 2018

Biased poll producing biased results... who’d have ever guessed...

VMware vHODL Jan 25, 2018

It should really be based on socio-economic status, like financial aid.

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IKalp1 Jan 25, 2018

I support fairness and equality for all. Does affirmative action equal fairness and equality for all races?

Microsoft AAcz05 Jan 25, 2018

We should stop grouping people, period. So many unintended consequences would go away. Just make a decision on an individual basis, based on merit and character.

Amazon Ex-Banker OP Jan 25, 2018

I agree, but liberals don't want that.