Evaluate Apple offer

Cisco seven 11
Apr 18, 2018 48 Comments

Please help evaluate the following offer from apple for SWE

- base 180k
- RSUs 160k / 4 years
- sign on 40k

Years of experience - 6

Is this ICT3 or ICT4?

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TOP 48 Comments
  • Apple / Eng
    Hdjus72sjs

    Apple Eng

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    Google
    Hdjus72sjsmore
    Ict4 but low ball offer
    Apr 18, 2018 9
    • Apple / Eng ICT5
      $160k RSU is max for ICT4 unless you go out of guidelines and the hiring manager makes a case to finance.
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Apple / Eng ICT5
      The signing bonus can be as high as $75k without extra approvals.
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Apple Gg56fh
      I’m discussing it from experience but the scale may be changing. Hdjus72sjs, are $350k RSUs the norm for ICT4 new hires in SWE? What would a competitive offer for an ICT5 look like?
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Apple / Eng
      Hdjus72sjs

      Apple Eng

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      Google
      Hdjus72sjsmore
      3 years ago ict4 with 500k initial rsu. One year ago ict5 with 400k rsu. So average of initial rsu I would ask for ict4 is at least 300k
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Apple / Eng
      Lukugoon

      Apple Eng

      PRE
      Google, Yahoo
      Lukugoonmore
      Hdjus72sjs, really ? Which team/org it is ? I will jump there :p
      Apr 18, 2018
  • BlackBerry / Mgmt JohnChen👨
    It’s a decent offer and on top of that Apple is a terrific company
    Apr 18, 2018 0
  • AMD Xfxd3d
    Stock seems low but I doubt AAPL will be flexible on that
    Apr 18, 2018 6
    • AMD Xfxd3d
      My friend is negotiating an offer but AAPL didn't budge on increasing the stock he said
      Apr 18, 2018
    • AMD Xfxd3d
      What group are you joining op
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Cisco seven 11
      OP
      iCloud
      Apr 18, 2018
    • AMD Xfxd3d
      👍🏻 180k is a very good base for 6 y exp
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Apple Grilllzzz
      That’s a great offer. Also stock is mid to high range for ICT4. My friend is a manager and recently hired someone at Apple. Ict4 and compensation is Almost exactly what you received.
      Apr 20, 2018
  • Apple bingobingo
    For Apple, this is a good offer and it's ICT4
    Apr 18, 2018 0
  • Snapchat panSchat
    how good are ICT4 refreshers?
    Apr 18, 2018 4
    • Apple / Eng cpKz41
      0-100% base
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Snapchat panSchat
      Is there a target? Is it cash?
      Apr 19, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cpKz41
      No target. RSUs. There also could be 0-50k cash bonus. Rough range. Not hard numbers.
      Apr 19, 2018
    • Intel faangarooo
      Heard more than 100% refresher. I think limit is the sky for Apple refreshers.
      Apr 20, 2018
  • Apple AppleGuru
    Great offer. Phenomenal for 6 years total experience
    Apr 18, 2018 0
  • Uber knight
    is apple always giving low RSU and high refresh? Some new grads can get 160k from other companies.
    Apr 18, 2018 3
    • Cisco seven 11
      OP
      That's what I've heard. Low initial grant and high refreshers.
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Apple / Eng AppleyMan
      Yep! Apple gives very good yearly RSU refreshers.
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Apple / Eng
      Tax-struck

      Apple Eng

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      Google, Nvidia
      Tax-struckmore
      Yea you can expect 60 to 100% of this base salary as annual RSU
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Elementum voPhkb
    May I ask what team is this for?
    Apr 18, 2018 1
  • Cisco sheeting
    Not Cisco ☑️
    Apr 18, 2018 1
    • Cisco Asdfghjk11
      Why bash your own company?
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Snapchat panSchat
    160k stock a year?
    Apr 18, 2018 1
    • Cisco seven 11
      OP
      Over 4 years
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Apple / Eng cpKz41
    ICT4
    Apr 18, 2018 0
  • Amazon qmiT07
    Did someone refer you?
    Apr 18, 2018 1
    • Cisco seven 11
      OP
      As a matter of fact yes. Does it matter?
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Apple / Eng WaTpwBZkwy
    All components of the offer can be improved by 10%. More importantly, make sure you like the manager and the team.
    Apr 18, 2018 1
    • Cisco seven 11
      OP
      Thanks! I doubt there's any wiggle room for the base but you're right about stock and sign on.
      Apr 18, 2018
  • Apple MEjV68
    ICT4
    Apr 18, 2018 1
    • Uber yGKC82
      If it’s been more than 3 days since I interviewed do you think it’s a reject if I haven’t heard back yet?
      Apr 18, 2018
  • RSU is misaligned with the base. Why does Apple give really low RSUs?
    Oct 16, 2018 0
  • Microsoft AsyncIO
    Does Apple do year end cash and stock bonuses?
    May 22, 2018 0
  • Microsoft MuStFiT
    Great offer OP! Is this for iCloud Cupertino? Expecting an offer from Apple too.
    Apr 20, 2018 0
  • Apple pLwZa49
    ICT4
    Apr 18, 2018 0
  • Apple !work
    ICT4 and pretty good offer
    Apr 18, 2018 0
  • Glassdoor psncbc
    Great offer
    Apr 18, 2018 0

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