Evaluate Google L5 SWE offer

Jun 6, 2018 35 Comments

160/30/380 after some negotiation.

Comes up to 300 TC with 15% target bonus for meets.

Seattle

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TOP 35 Comments
  • Google HavingFun
    I am a manager. Let me tell you something. Never ever ask for more base when base is low. Instead ask for more equity or signon. Reason: Year end salary planning takes previous base into account. If it was low before you would get higher increase for same rating. But equity planning does not look at previous grants. So having higher initial grant will not have a bigger impact on it. Technically manager can adjust it downward. But that is still a manual action. Assuming manager leaves it to the formula, you are better off coming in with lower base and same TC. It does lower your bonus slightly but that should be negligible for L5.
    Jun 6, 2018 2
    • Capital One / Eng 1+2=3
      Great advice! I didn’t know this. This makes sense and is probably true at a lot of companies.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Not true at Yahoo though. They see your outstanding RSU before allotting.
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng Bazinga!!!
    Total yoe please? If you have competing offers, use them else get a couple of offers for negotiation.
    Jun 6, 2018 6
    • Amazon / Eng Bazinga!!!
      Ya, try getting an offer from one of the other top tech companies.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Bazinga!!!
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      Jun 6, 2018
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      Jun 6, 2018
    • OP
      Yeah, I saw it. This offer is like bottom 20%
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng lowlysde2
      Those numbers are inflated due to Bay Area salaries(California state tax , hot market etc..). Generally base is about 8-10% lower for Seattle are, Rsus are generally 5% lower.

      Your offers looks decent (probably a tad below median). If you expect 330k. You might try and haggle for 20-30k more. But is it worth it ?
      Senior in Google is big deal. Go for it.
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Microsoft desanxxx
    It is not very high. But without any leverage unlikely you can bump it up.
    Jun 6, 2018 5
    • OP
      I have a bit higher offer but Google is not matching it fully.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • TuneIn Spelmanson
      From what company that another offer? Is it higher on base or rsu?
      Jun 6, 2018
    • OP
      Smaller company. Higher in base.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Salesforce tc400
      Ask firmly and be ready to walk away from them. They will contact you back shortly
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Yes walk out! They’ll approach you for sure at the max in 1-2 months with way better numbers. Google only matches FB numbers straight away!
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Amazon JkZ!+ev
    Wouldn't get out of bed for this TC
    Jun 6, 2018 1
    • OP
      Are you a principal at Amazon? This is a solid SDE3 comp.
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng ammierting
    Low
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Google liam
    Its a top T4 offer. Ask for more shares as T5.
    Jun 7, 2018 2
    • OP
      I already did. This is after some negotiation.
      Jun 7, 2018
    • Google liam
      Well, get an offer from FB.
      Jun 7, 2018
  • Google naiseyab
    This is the lowest l5 offer I have heard of.

    I just got promoted to L4 after a year at Google. My TC is 340k.

    Do negotiate with counter offers.
    Jun 7, 2018 1
    • New / Eng
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      New Eng

      PRE
      Google, Facebook
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      How did you get promotion in one year? Also what was your L3 comp?
      Jun 7, 2018
  • TuneIn Spelmanson
    Ask for higher base. They can do 180
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Facebook supichai
    Take it
    Jun 6, 2018 1
    • OP
      Not too low? I was hoping for 320-330.
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Microsoft KnNo75
    How does that add up to 300k pa?
    160+30+380/4= 285k???
    Jun 6, 2018 1
    • OP
      15% performance bonus
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Amazon JIdt44
    Coming this is Seattle, it’s totally equal to 330k in Bay
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Capital One / Eng 1+2=3
    How many years of experience?
    Jun 6, 2018 1
  • Google iegb37
    What's 30?
    Jun 6, 2018 1
  • Facebook supichai
    May be SWE supply is increasing
    Jun 8, 2018 0