CompensationSep 6, 2019
Coupangdbxer

Evaluate my Dropbox Offer

IC3 Base 215 RSU 600/4 Sign On 50k Bonus 15% TC 397 without Sign on YOE 12 Didnt make the IC4 bar.

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SAP norsk Sep 6, 2019

What’s the TC here? (SALARY*1.15)+(RSU/4)+(SIGNON/??)? A bit over 400 TC?

Bank of America Quacky Sep 6, 2019

Could you help.me.understand why salary*1.15

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nopotato Sep 6, 2019

@Quacky The 1.15 is 115% of the salary, to account for 100% of the salary, and 100% of the up-to-15% annual bonus. @norsk you can't include signing bonuses in TC. They are one time payouts with a leash. The formula for TC is: s + b + (e/4) = c Where: - s is salary - b is the dollar value of the annual bonus - e is the total value of the equity given at the grant day (or offer date if grant date is unknown) - c is total compensation ... So the TC for this offer is 397,250. Note that the formula can be modified slightly to avoid having to calculate the annual bonus value, if you only have the percentage 'p': (s * (1 + (p/100)) + (r/4) = c which shows that b = s * (p/100)

The Trade Desk hdidbwi Sep 6, 2019

It's good, but maybe not as good as you think... e.g. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/those-purchased-dropbox-nasdaq-dbx-170719837.html ... Of course, past performance does not necessarily predict the future, but you always should factor in some analysis of growth prospects when evaluating equity. If their trend continues (or worsens) your 600k in rsus would be worth less than 125k by the time it fully vests.

Coupang dbxer OP Sep 6, 2019

My grants will be granted at an avg share price outside the major dip, so hopefully it can only go up :)

The Trade Desk hdidbwi Sep 6, 2019

Perhaps I misunderstand, but that seems worse... If they use an avg share prices not factoring in the recent dip to calc the rsu count, then you will get a lower value from the very start. Unless you are saying they will recalc 150k/current share price on every yearly vest... That would be better for you if the stock goes down (but worse if goes up)

Dropbox hhdoteb Sep 6, 2019

Median L3 is around 330 so that’s pretty high

Dropbox nvp Sep 6, 2019

how do you know the tc median? is it also available somewhere?

Dropbox hhdoteb Sep 7, 2019

Year end when they give you the TC sheet it says median in terms of base. Then I just ask our recruiters for comp band

Uber TC || 👉 Sep 6, 2019

So what specifically disqualified you from IC4 bar? I thought 12 yoe should get you there.

Coupang dbxer OP Sep 6, 2019

I’ve been told that I wasn’t articulating technical concepts deep enough. I never was asked about “going deeper” No pun intended. Lol

Glassdoor aklz Sep 6, 2019

"We didn't like your closing arguments and you didn't diversify your solutions with enough sharpies. In fact, you've only used blue" so we're gonna pay you less.

Box luxlord Sep 6, 2019

400k for ic3 is really good. That is IC4 salary

Microsoft cooo Sep 6, 2019

this is the top offer.

Dropbox Kinda Sep 6, 2019

I'm IC3 with 340 TC at this point :(

Coupang dbxer OP Sep 6, 2019

340k is still top tier for the level equivalent at FAANG

Dropbox super-dope Sep 9, 2019

I make less as IC4. Congrats!

Amazon noogler22 Sep 9, 2019

Is IC3 senior software engineer or IC4 in dropbox?

Dropbox super-dope Sep 9, 2019

IC4 at Dropbox now.

Dropbox hhdoteb Sep 9, 2019

Both are called SWE until L5 (staff)

Coupang dbxer OP Sep 9, 2019

I’ve heard IC3 is called Senior now?

Dropbox Kinda Sep 9, 2019

Not really

Microsoft LhYu47 Oct 2, 2019

Do they pay same or different for swe and tpm, Microsoft pays the same