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FAANG + Microsoft Stock Price Performance Since 6/1/18

Microsoft / Other
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MicrosoftOther

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Dec 6, 2018

Facebook: -28.02%
Netflix: -21.41%
Apple: -8.16%
Google: -4.54%
Amazon: +3.51%
Microsoft: +8.33%

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  • Facebook / Eng
    mrballz

    FacebookEng

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    Microsoft
    mrballzmore
    Since my stock grant target is exactly five times as much as it was at Microsoft, when should I start to worry? Assume I always sell vested stock immediately and reinvest in mutual funds.
    Dec 6, 201814
    • Microsoft / Other
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      MicrosoftOther

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      OP
      We are damaging his narrative. Denial is about to hit.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng:?
      Couple problems here:

      First, you’re including SSAs, which aren’t guaranteed to keep happening.

      Second, SSAs are given to top performers. The top performers at FB who are E4 get a $210k stock award, and the top performers at FB who are E5 get a $360k stock award.

      Third, FB has special stock awards that can go on top of the numbers provided above.

      Let’s compare apples to apples folks.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Microsoft / Other
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      MicrosoftOther

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      OP
      If that makes you sleep better.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng:?
      I’m not the OP you’re arguing with. I’m just showing that your argument is terrible.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng
      mrballz

      FacebookEng

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      Microsoft
      mrballzmore
      OP, I wrote 'target' for a reason. Work on your reading comprehension, will you?
      Dec 6, 2018
    • New / EngMSFT_fte
      I am not including SSA, I was hired recently.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng
      mrballz

      FacebookEng

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      Microsoft
      mrballzmore
      Then you haven't even got a yearly stock grant yet. You got an initial grant.

      I was talking about yearly stock grant.

      For MS 64 target is 24k, can go up to 48k
      For FB E5 target is 120k, can go up to 360k
      Dec 6, 2018
    • New / EngMSFT_fte
      Yeah mine is only on-hire stock. By yearly stock grant, you mean stock refreshers after 4 years that all on-hire is vested?
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng:?
      By yearly stock grant, we mean refreshers that you get at the end of each year, starting at the end of the first year.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • New / EngMSFT_fte
      For my level it's so small that never considered it!
      Dec 6, 2018
  • Google RockLobsta
    Could you please sabotage Microsoft? I’m joining soon and want my grant at a lower stock price :)
    Dec 6, 201811
    • Google RockLobsta
      L7 to L66 SWE 13 YOE
      Dec 6, 2018
    • New / EngMSFT_fte
      Offered TC at mictosoft please.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Google RockLobsta
      $800k
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Move JUvY31
      Is that ic level?
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Google RockLobsta
      Yes
      Dec 6, 2018
    • New / EngMSFT_fte
      Wow are you super great? Will you be my mentor? I just joined Microsoft as 62. I'm very promising (managers say).
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Google RockLobsta
      Lol I think I’m ok. I think you’d be better served by a mentor that’s been at Microsoft for a long time. I’ll be learning the ropes there just like you.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Microsoft Ink8i
      Really 800k TC? Sounds way too high
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Google RockLobsta
      I’m not gonna complain.
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Microsoft Ink8i
      What was the breakdown?
      Dec 9, 2018
  • All FANG company stock price multiplied many many times before. MS was flat for a whole 10 years. Nothing to be proud of.
    Dec 6, 20183
    • Microsoft / Other
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      MicrosoftOther

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      OP
      Just posting facts. Sorry to trigger you.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Microsoft Ink8i
      #1 market cap, numbers don’t lie, suckerborg
      Dec 6, 2018
    • MS is probably the last place FANG engineers would want to work at. Suck it up M$ losers.
      Dec 6, 2018
  • Microsoft / EngDr. 13
    Why compare only last 6 months?
    Go back 5 years and repost the numbers.
    Dec 6, 20183
    • Microsoft / Other
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      MicrosoftOther

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      OP
      Current Trend > Living In Past
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Microsoft / Other
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      MicrosoftOther

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      OP
      5 year numbers for fun:

      Google: 103%
      Apple: 121%
      Facebook: 161%
      Microsoft: 197%
      Amazon: 342%
      Netflix: 436%
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Netflix / EngBlndrThngs
      Yeah that’s more fun
      Dec 6, 2018
  • Google
    NotIndian

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    Amazon
    NotIndianmore
    MAGA at the top 4.
    Dec 6, 20180
  • Facebook public2
    Great, another couple hundred % and it'll make up for 2000 to 2015! Sorry employees no longer get meaningful stock grants. They were big in the 90s!
    Dec 6, 20186
    • Google RockLobsta
      Their on hire grants are better than FBs and Azure is doing really well. Refreshers there suck, but that’s why you only stay a few years.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Facebook public2
      What? Unless this just changed a few months ago msft hasn't even been in the same ballpark for decades. Awesome if this changed!
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Google RockLobsta
      Yup. It’s changed. If you are coming from FB or Google they will throw a dump truck of cash and stock at you.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Facebook public2
      Have never seen this or heard this from anyone but glad to hear it! Msft is still my largest holding!
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng
      mrballz

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      mrballzmore
      Do you have exact numbers for on hire grants?
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Google RockLobsta
      I have exact numbers for mine. A friend who is L8 told me her offer was also far higher than anyone else’s. No special knowledge of other people’s offers.
      Dec 6, 2018
  • Microsoft jazzer
    It’s a well known fact that MSFT refreshers are super low (not including special stock)
    L64->24k-48k max compared to fb e5 -> 120k-360k max
    Dec 7, 20180

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