Fastest way to Tech PM

D. E. Shaw & Co. / IT qOverflow
Aug 18 18 Comments

2 yoe SWE
Tried Google/Fb Apm/rpm but the no of candidates in these programs is too low.
Most PM roles require some PM experience.
What is the fastest way for a SWE to become a PM in Tech?

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  • Microsoft
    atin1ey

    Microsoft

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    Taco Bell, Campbell Soup, Jack in the Box
    atin1eymore
    Why would you ever want to do this. Pms are bottom feeders.
    Aug 18 7
    • Amazon / Other
      Rbrtchng1

      Amazon Other

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      Iโ€™m probably cooler than you
      Rbrtchng1more
      Because pm role is created to handle the worst part of development process: communicating business and dev priorities across teams all with different goals
      Aug 18
    • Microsoft
      atin1ey

      Microsoft

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      atin1eymore
      There is no hate. Not from me anyway. Just stating facts. All things equal PMs are less valuable than devs and make less than devs
      Aug 18
    • Microsoft / Product ็‰น็‹ผๆ™ฎ
      I'm a PM and I feel like a top feeder in my org ;)
      Aug 18
    • Microsoft techladki
      PMs IMHO make the same as Dev.

      The work is mostly BS/ideas, while engineers do the real work. So not a bad deal for same pay
      Aug 18
    • Microsoft snoozefest
      IMO a high pm dev ratio doesn't necessarily map to a useful, great PM role.... I would argue the opposite where now you have too many layers of PM managing details that the dev should be handling versus larger metrics / roadmap.
      Aug 19
  • Microsoft techladki
    Unlike the rest of the comments, I think moving to Product Manager is a good idea.

    The work is mostly just BS/coming up with ideas, while engineers go the actual work of implementing the idea to reality.
    So sounds like a pretty good deal to just BS for the same pay!
    Aug 18 0
  • Even I wanted to do the same but PM job is mostly BS. Engineer has to give lot of input for their work and it's really easier for the engineer itself to do that instead.
    Aug 18 0
  • Build your own product
    Aug 18 0
  • Postmates setamtsoP
    Why do u want to go there? Those roles are crap.
    Aug 18 5
    • Workday / Product tdf
      Maybe if you had good PMs, your company would be doing better.
      Aug 18
    • Microsoft techladki
      Getting paid same as Swe but only BS ing and letting engineers do the work sounds amazing!
      Aug 18
    • Workday / Product tdf
      Sigh. Because thatโ€™s why you are paid. To do the work. Not to be a janitor.
      Aug 18
    • Postmates setamtsoP
      @tdf, I take you're a useless TPM?
      Aug 18
    • Workday / Product tdf
      Yes. Useless af.
      Aug 18
  • Synopsys lala123456
    Program manager or product manager?
    Aug 18 0