Tech IndustryApr 9, 2018
Amazondxgen

Fucked up rating

My mgr at amz is a newbie and mostly not fit to be in that level. He has given a least effective rating and is adding me to dev plan with zero indication in the past. The bad part is i am on a product thats super exhaustive and have worked almost 12 to13 hrs everyday for the last 1 yr and dint expect that. I had a conversation with hrbp and havent been able to convince her.. he is a fucked up manager.. but she is putting some plan together.. But all the hard work i put in for this yr and was expecting to get promoted based on my peer feedback..is wasted and the shock is been unbearable.. If anyone here at higher managment can help me with somw advice... would be really thankful.

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Axtria Together Apr 9, 2018

Move on, or switch teams. Someone has rightly said, employees don't leave a company, they leave a bad manager.

Amazon dxgen OP Apr 9, 2018

Until devplan completes i cant move.. i knew this info in last few hrs.. so still recouping from the shock.

eBay tea_time Apr 9, 2018

You can have exceptions to that, if you can get VP approval.

Microsoft HDnI53 Apr 9, 2018

Sorry to hear that op. Is there any where to find a manager rating or know how a manager is before joining?

Amazon dxgen OP Apr 9, 2018

Nope, not at amazon

Amazon zccNpK Apr 9, 2018

Yes, in Amazon you can look at that managers tech survey results.

Airbnb UQlM56 Apr 9, 2018

Sorry to hear that this happened to you. It’s best to use your remaining time to look for a new job. Figure out what you could have done to prevent this, if anything.

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PooChoo Apr 9, 2018

Working 12 to 13 hours does not mean you're working effectively. in fact, it usually means the opposite.

Amazon dxgen OP Apr 9, 2018

I understand the regular case.. in my case its a product launching with super aggressive schedules and my dev team resides in a different geo location. I also integration with another team in a different location.. so pretty horrendous process

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UHtz31 Apr 9, 2018

uhhh not when your director or vp drops by 5pm and assigns you a new task that had a deadline 2 days ago. You can't say no, but saying yes sets a precedent for future asks

Microsoft wlb Apr 9, 2018

Needing to work 12 hours a day is already a huge red flag. In this kind of sweat shop team, it is even harder to get a good performance rating than normal teams, and you should leave immediately. Such managers are incompetent and it is best if you don’t waste your time on any of them.

Microsoft MrSatan Apr 9, 2018

Talk to your skip level about it. Don’t just shit on your manager, but defend your performance.

Amazon dxgen OP Apr 9, 2018

Unfortunately by skip is a VP not sure how to make that conversation

Microsoft JoanHarris Apr 9, 2018

Don’t be afraid you have basically nothing to lose at this point. Go in with a good story, examples of what you’ve achieved and feedback from peers. You can fight pivot.

Netflix LG Apr 9, 2018

It’s Amazon. Don’t expect anything better. Save yourself some heartache, and get the hell out of there ASAP

Amazon STBV58 Apr 9, 2018

Once you are rated LE you are basically handcuffed to your team...you should be actively applying to other companies.

Microsoft wlb Apr 10, 2018

What is LE?

Zillow Group GilFoyle1 Apr 10, 2018

Your manager has chosen to black ball you based off either your previous contributions, lack of a relationship, etc.... In any case, I’d hate to be blunt, but your reputation has taken a hit, in Amazon by your manager and peers, and now HR knows about it. I would suggest you search for another job immediately, and leave before you are let go. It will help you save some face, and some pride. Also, I don’t know the situation, but some feedback for you. If you are surprised by your managers performance rating, you’ve not done a good job building a communication line with your manager to see that coming. I would suggest building a relation with your future managers, where you are constantly getting feedback and sharing career growth (promotions, responsibilities, etc) with them.

Amazon mXfT18 Apr 10, 2018

Do you not understand that Amazon does stack ranking? There were threads here about rockstar SDE III’s being given LE without warning. Go find a company that will treat you better. If you can survive Amazon you can survive anywhere. Vote with your feet. Amazon is poison.

Microsoft wlb Apr 10, 2018

What is LE?

Amazon mXfT18 Apr 10, 2018

LE = Least Effective aka “soon to be fired”. Go look up stack ranking. Amazon does it.