Tech IndustrySep 25, 2019
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Google L3 VS Amazon SDE2

TC is 220k (still negotiating) for G cloud team in the Bay Area and 260k for A in Seattle. My major concern for working for Amazon is the rumored toxic environment. If choosing G, obviously leave quite a lot money on the table when considering living expense and state tax. Any suggestions guys?

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Amazon olllla Sep 25, 2019

google, amzn if you are ok with putting long hours

Samsung NoComments OP Sep 25, 2019

Long hours is not that a big issue for me. I heard that some managers did horrible things like putting preforming SDE on the DEV list. And since I'm on H1-B visa, it would be quite bad if that happens.

Amazon olllla Sep 25, 2019

they wont put you on pip if you put the hour, no way. unless you are super non productive or have attitude

Google d3j88wq Sep 25, 2019

That's an excellent offer for L3. Although it sounds like you were downleveled. YOE?

Samsung NoComments OP Sep 25, 2019

4 YOE. But not 100% related. I think I'm lowballed. The initial offer is fucking insulting (125k base).

Google d3j88wq Sep 25, 2019

Your offer is above median for L3 (median is 208). In about 2 years you could get promoted to L4 (median 260).

Amazon LostAtC Sep 25, 2019

I would take G. Less money, but better work environment, you’re gonna get promoted in a year, and Mountain View is way nicer than Seattle.

Microsoft newemp2017 Sep 25, 2019

Lol 40k difference bro

Bloomberg Enig16 Sep 25, 2019

Mountain View way nicer than Seattle??

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dbky43 Sep 25, 2019

Take amazon, save up for an year or two, come back to bay area with higher TC

Samsung NoComments OP Sep 25, 2019

Good idea. But I'm feeling kinda depressed when thinking about leetcode...

eBay succession Sep 25, 2019

+40k and lower COL...

Samsung NoComments OP Sep 25, 2019

I hear you Bro...

LinkedIn Wiener Sep 25, 2019

Where are you located right now?

Samsung NoComments OP Sep 25, 2019

Texas

LinkedIn Wiener Sep 25, 2019

Then Amazon. Google L3 is stressful because there is pressure to promote. L4 is a lot more comfortable.

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AmazonEng Sep 25, 2019

Google

Toptal rfhS00 Sep 25, 2019

Why is it even a question. Of course G. Amazon will chew you and then spit out

Samsung NoComments OP Sep 25, 2019

But actually the initial offer from G is insulting. I mean when company thinks they can exploit you, they surely will do. G recruiter actually used the same argument to try sway me.

Google Bergey Sin Sep 25, 2019

Also, that comp difference after tax is about the price of paying for breakfast, lunch and snacks (free at G) for a year.

Samsung NoComments OP Sep 25, 2019

That's true. Also I personally don't enjoy cooking and I'm not a huge fan of bananas :D

AT&T MsdR32 Sep 25, 2019

Ask g for an uplevel interview? Worth a try

Samsung NoComments OP Sep 25, 2019

The recruiter said the level is final.