I got two offers:
(1) Facebook SWE-ML E4
(2) Google SWE L4 (interviewed for SWE-ML but matched with a team for a non-ML project)
Which position might be better career wise ? Does ML or not make any big difference?
- Some friends said go for ML because it's polular and it's more difficult to join an ML team
- some said join google for better engineering practice and WLB
Assuming the same location with similar TC (fb: 250K + 50 sign-on).
YOE: 2 (ML-related project)
I got two offers:
- Google LilacsFor OP, it's probably more difficult to join Hooters as a waitress than as SWE at either of these companies. Also very hot, arguably even more popular than ML.
- It's his choice. He does not have to respond to the pings outside business hours. I seriously don't understand what makes people put up with this shit. It's not like FB is anywhere near being the top payer, either. Then, what is it? My theory is they like it this way lol.
- Better eng practice? I doubt it. It highly depends on your team. Not worth to give it a try just for that. It’s hard to transfer to a good Ml team in Google, everyone want it. ‘transfer is easy’ is just a google hype
- Thanks mlrocks and iPhonebest.
I interviewed for ML because I had some experience in ML - took classes in PhD and my current job is ML. I also like to have some research/experimental component in my job.
I'm totally ok with working as a SWE generalist. Just trying to figure out if ML is really better in the future. Some think there are more non-ML jobs and ML might be a hype. But again I like ML and this is a good opportunity.
Btw, is SWE-Machine Learning a real official title at Google ? Or internally it's the same as SWE (just different interview loop) ?
- Google garyandmeIt's close but I say FB unless you are excited about the org Google matched you with.
Snap is right the ML title is a big deal. If your goal is, say, senior ML eng at G, it's easier to make happen coming from FB as an ML SWE than trying to swing an internal transfer from non-ml to ml. Hope you can hold your nose for a year at FB, if you can it will be worth it
- I will be learning a lot of new skills in the google team. Not super excited about the project but excited about learning new things. Every googler friend I talked to said just join and then do internal transfer after 1 year if I don't like it.
Fb is great for growth! Internal transfer seems easy too. But tbh I am a bit concerned about their notorious wlb. But again working on ml and having ML in the title with fb's fast promo. It seems to be a great option.
- How is this even in question? ML is better. Can always go ML to non ML, but not the other way around. Especially if you have a PhD, unless it's in English lit or something.