Google considering L4 due to past interview

Intel / R&D
asimo

Intel R&D

BIO
software engineer
asimomore
Mar 16 22 Comments

YOE 18


Embedded SWE. Try for Consumer HW.

Last year, Interviewed for L5, did terrible. Got L4. Turned down.

This year, interviewed for L6, went to L6 HC, they simply say leadership and system design not strong. Total BS. Anyways, HC approved but they asking VP to decide L4 or L5 JUST because I had L4 last year. Otherwise it would have been automatic L5.

Any advice?

Should have Apple offer in hand very soon. If Apple gives ICT5, will G uplevel back to L6?

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TOP 22 Comments
  • Apple / Eng Ludacris
    So they’re offering you 4 this year because they offered you 4 last year and you declined.

    They’re either dumbasses or they don’t see your value. Either way don’t accept it.
    Mar 16 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    WestCoastK

    Amazon Eng

    PRE
    Alibaba, Microsoft
    WestCoastKmore
    If they don't give you L5 just refuse.
    Mar 16 0
  • LinkedIn CodeFaro
    Yep you are being screwed over past performance. L4 to l5 is just a huge huge grind purely based on process
    Mar 16 2
    • Google engg1
      Can you please elaborate more. Downleveled L4 noogler here.
      Mar 17
    • LinkedIn CodeFaro
      So even though you may have missed out on l5 "narrowly" when you join at l4 the promo process (to l5) doesn't just aim to cover a "gap". It starts from 0 all over again.
      Mar 17
  • Intel / R&D
    asimo

    Intel R&D

    BIO
    software engineer
    asimomore
    OP
    Took Apple offer. Bye bye Google.
    May 18 1
    • Google / Eng
      bitwise1

      Google Eng

      BIO
      hack em
      bitwise1more
      Care to share TC for ict5?
      Jun 12
  • Google camelCase
    Don’t take L4 with 18 yoe! That’s ridiculous.
    Mar 16 4
    • Oracle
      rtrc21

      Oracle

      PRE
      Infosys, SkillSoft
      rtrc21more
      I am planning to apply soon. Which role/level should I look for when applying with 12.5 yoe SWE , currently a Principal Engineer, Level 5 at Oracle.
      For Google India positions.
      Mar 16
    • Google camelCase
      Go for L6. I was IC-5 at Oracle. interviewed for L6, got L5.
      Wait, principal is IC-4. Then go for L5.
      Mar 16
    • Oracle
      rtrc21

      Oracle

      PRE
      Infosys, SkillSoft
      rtrc21more
      Yeah right. My bad. It's level 4. I always miss the fact that Sr.Apps and PL at same level though we have to go through both with a promotion.

      Good to know you moved from Oracle to Google. Any tips? I am leet coding and brushing my Java/JavaScript.
      And unfortunately not many openings in Google Hyderabad. But I am willing to wait for the right opportunity and a long way to go on my leet code practice.
      Mar 16
    • Google camelCase
      Keep on leetcoding, you should have no problem getting interviews with Oracle on your resume. For me the difficult part is always system design as you can’t leetcode it. Don’t have any India-specific insight, but from what I see Google India is quite strong.
      Mar 16
  • Intel / R&D
    asimo

    Intel R&D

    BIO
    software engineer
    asimomore
    OP
    To confirm, they didn't decide L4 yet. They are asking VP to decide L4 or L5 , maybe to be safe? They are going to ask HM's manager, I.e. director to give strong reco letter to support L5. HM had already given strong reco letter for L6
    Mar 16 1
    • Tutanota randodata
      It just feels like they treating you like a child
      Mar 16
  • Intel / R&D
    asimo

    Intel R&D

    BIO
    software engineer
    asimomore
    OP
    Got ICT4. 195/30/160/18%
    Jun 20 0
  • Amazon bisemberk
    L4 with 18 yoe? hahaha. that’s messed up. just go elsewhere.
    Mar 16 0
  • Google / Eng
    bitwise1

    Google Eng

    BIO
    hack em
    bitwise1more
    Google is fkedup.. now a days low balling specifically embedded where they dont make money
    May 16 1
  • Intel / R&D
    asimo

    Intel R&D

    BIO
    software engineer
    asimomore
    OP
    Got offered L4 again :(
    Mar 24 1
    • Google camelCase
      Sad.
      What is the TC with L6->L4?
      Mar 24
  • Amazon McKnziBzos
    YOE 18?
    Mar 16 0
  • Amazon gjrvhrjgs
    After all these old people from Amazon and Microsoft joined Google, they began to run the leveling shit show. Poor Google
    Mar 16 0

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